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  • Sandman9580
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    I look forward to seeing the remake, just as a curiosity. Freddy terrified me as a kid -- so the comedic direction they eventually went in leaves me cold. To me, Freddy should be scary.

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  • ctc
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    Hmmmm....

    I think it’s safe to call the first one a good movie: it had some pretty imaginative stuff, and was technically proficient. Some of the others were entertaining, but I don’t know if I’d call ‘em “good.” They tended to rely on the same schtick too much, and the kids would wimp out at odd times just to move the story along. But they were fun; Freddy was SUCH a jerk....

    (As an aside: I always wanted to see Freddy go after a kid who was crazier than he was.... a kid that’d kick Freddy out of his own world and end up doing MORE damage than the Krugester; forcing Freddy into a sort of hero role.)

    The new flick was a strange bit of film. If you’re familiar with the story, or have seen the original then the new one probably won’t impress you. It’s an hour of buildup to a twist you already know. If it was your first encounter with the story, I could see enjoying it, since it’s essentially the first film again.

    A confounding bit would be for oldsters like us: like every slasher film since the 60's, the kids are archetypes.... disposable ciphers meant to be cut down like wheat. The film makers have very little time to introduce the “characters.” Visual cues are the easiest and most expedite method, but if you’re over 30 you’ll have a helluva time identifying the archetypes these kids fall under, given the shifts in fashion over the decades. (So.... the “Blink 182" lookin’ kid is the TOUGH one?!?!?)

    I noticed a similar phenomenon years ago, during a prolonged bout of 50's delinquent films. As someone born in 1970 I had a tough time identifying which were the “good” kids, and which the “bad.” After way too many films, I developed the knack.... but the differences are subtle.

    The weakest point of the new Nightmare film is Freddy.... he’s creepier than the original, but not as entertaining since they toned his sarcasm down. It’s a tradeoff that didn’t ruin things for me, but did take some getting used to.

    Don C.

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  • samurainoir
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    great podcast about Night on Elm Street, including an interview with Heather Langenkemp (sp?)
    Retroist Podcast A Nightmare on Elm Street | The Retroist

    Last edited by samurainoir; Aug 13, '11, 6:03 PM.

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  • fallensaviour
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    Originally posted by toys2cool
    what made Freddy so good for me was how funny he was the new one is not funny at all , but he's decent
    Exactly D.
    I feel the same Englund was just hilarious even on the crappy tv series.The new Freddy is just not funny and the make up, although realistic looking just isn't freddy.
    But the movie was okay and I would like to see more.

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  • samurainoir
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    They appear to have added Freddy to a recent version of one of the Mortal Kombat games

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  • toys2cool
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    Originally posted by fallensaviour
    Nightmare was a great franchise I liked all of the original films with Englund in them.
    The remake was okay but it just wasn't freddy for me.
    what made Freddy so good for me was how funny he was the new one is not funny at all , but he's decent

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  • fallensaviour
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    Nightmare was a great franchise I liked all of the original films with Englund in them.
    The remake was okay but it just wasn't freddy for me.

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  • Sandman9580
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    The first one was great. Dream Warriors is the only sequel that can touch it, IMO. Those two are my favorites -- but I liked Part 2 well enough. I thought the whole gay subtext in the second one was kind of interesting, considering it was such a teen-centered, mainstream horror flick. (The screenwriter said it was intentional, the director claims he didn't even notice.)

    The others have their moments but I can take 'em or leave 'em. (New Nightmare was kinda cool, though.)

    Haven't seen the remake yet.
    Last edited by Sandman9580; Aug 10, '11, 10:41 PM.

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  • samurainoir
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    In the original, they felt like they were already pushing the boundaries already, so the dialogue referred to him as a child killer. Although I think it was very obvious given all the weirdly sexually suggestive dream imagery they used throughout the movies... from the tongue in the telephone to Freddy turning into a snake or the "jaws" claws between her legs in the bathtub.

    In the remake they came out and stated it at the end IIRC. They at least introduced an interesting element of ambiguity in the build-up to the climax for those that were not familiar with the originals... Did He or Didn't He?

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  • toys2cool
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    Originally posted by Mikey
    I never seen the remake

    I'm surprised they went into more details in it.
    yea that's what i kind of like about it, of course I think the original is way better...but this shows the angry parents going after his *** and getting him..it's pretty cool dude had no chance

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  • Mikey
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    Originally posted by toys2cool
    yea but they kind of didn't show much about it in the originals, so that's why they try and talk about it and show more in the re-make..definitely a molester
    I never seen the remake

    I'm surprised they went into more details in it.

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  • toys2cool
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    Originally posted by Mikey
    They always discribed Freddy as a "child killer"

    That seems like a weird description in the real world.

    Was he actually a child molester/killer ?
    yea but they kind of didn't show much about it in the originals, so that's why they try and talk about it and show more in the re-make..definitely a molester

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  • Mikey
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    They always discribed Freddy as a "child killer"

    That seems like a weird description in the real world.

    Was he actually a child molester/killer ?

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  • toys2cool
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    Originally posted by samurainoir
    I REALLY wish they would have went ahead with Freddy Vs Jason Vs Ash while Englund and Campbell are still able to physically do it.

    Englund really is a class act given all the kind words he had about The reboot and recasting.
    Englund is a trip in person , man he was making me laugh when i met him he was doing the Freddy voice the whole time

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  • samurainoir
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    I REALLY wish they would have went ahead with Freddy Vs Jason Vs Ash while Englund and Campbell are still able to physically do it.

    Englund really is a class act given all the kind words he had about The reboot and recasting.

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