after 13 plus years...

[megowgsh]

And now my former employer had to deal with the fallout of the badwill they demonstrated by going about this the way they did. The place was not some cutthroat insurance sales place or whatever, it was supposed to be all touchy feely and nice. Its all good and I'm moving on to what should be a new challenge and a better working environment. The bump in pay and perks doesn't hurt either.

No matter how they handled the situation there would be problems. They chose the path they felt would cause the fewest "ripples in the water".

It's not easy being the boss. Maybe that's why most people never become one.

[megowgsh]

Well, that says just about all there is to say about your mind set. Let me tell you something Austin. Every company I've ever worked for, and the one my wife works for now, have a policy regarding layoffs...they tell you five minutes before quitting time on a Friday not to come in Monday. No notice. Nothing. Their reasoning? If you know you'll be out of a job in two weeks you'll try to "get even" with the company. They just assume the worst of you. Then there was a place I worked for back in 2001. Euclid Refinishing. The company fell on hard times. They had to let people go. The owners, Ed and June Yusko, called everyone into the lunchroom...explained the situation and told us we would be out of jobs in two weeks. They said they understood we all had bills to pay and if we needed time off to look for another job, attend an interview, whatever...no problem. The would pay us for any time we missed. Every person in that lunchroom was moved to tears by the kindness, understanding, and generosity of those two people. They treated us like human beings and not some disposable commodity to be thrown away like trash. Some of us found other jobs more quickly than others. But EVERY SINGLE ONE of us stayed at Euclid Refinishing til the very end, and worked as hard as we ever did, because those two people deserved nothing less from us.

You just think about that the next time you show someone the door.

Dwayne,

you're talking about laying employees off and I am talking about employees giving their notice. Two completely different things. The way Euclid handled it sounds like the way I would.

Peace,

Austin

[enyawd72]

As a business owner once an employee tells me they are moving on, I show them the door.

Not because I am a jerk of a boss or a jerk of a person, but once a person has made their mind up to move on, their mind is on their new job and not on the job I am paying them for.

You took a new job for a reason. Move on if you think the grass is greener and be glad they paid your severance.

Your employer owes you nothing more than the salary they paid you for your work. And, it sounds like they did that.

Put yourself in their shoes for a minute and ask yourself if you'd want a disgruntled employee to continue to work for you while they have this other job lined up. Why would I want that person to continue to work for me and tell other employees about their new job and how good it will be and how bad it is here working for me? That is one problem I as an employer do not need.

There are two sides to this story people. I hope I was able to shed light on the side of the employer.

Austin

Well, that says just about all there is to say about your mind set. Let me tell you something Austin. Every company I've ever worked for, and the one my wife works for now, have a policy regarding layoffs...they tell you five minutes before quitting time on a Friday not to come in Monday. No notice. Nothing. Their reasoning? If you know you'll be out of a job in two weeks you'll try to "get even" with the company. They just assume the worst of you. Then there was a place I worked for back in 2001. Euclid Refinishing. The company fell on hard times. They had to let people go. The owners, Ed and June Yusko, called everyone into the lunchroom...explained the situation and told us we would be out of jobs in two weeks. They said they understood we all had bills to pay and if we needed time off to look for another job, attend an interview, whatever...no problem. The would pay us for any time we missed. Every person in that lunchroom was moved to tears by the kindness, understanding, and generosity of those two people. They treated us like human beings and not some disposable commodity to be thrown away like trash. Some of us found other jobs more quickly than others. But EVERY SINGLE ONE of us stayed at Euclid Refinishing til the very end, and worked as hard as we ever did, because those two people deserved nothing less from us.

You just think about that the next time you show someone the door.

[thunderbolt]

As a business owner once an employee tells me they are moving on, I show them the door.

Not because I am a jerk of a boss or a jerk of a person, but once a person has made their mind up to move on, their mind is on their new job and not on the job I am paying them for.

You took a new job for a reason. Move on if you think the grass is greener and be glad they paid your severance.

Your employer owes you nothing more than the salary they paid you for your work. And, it sounds like they did that.

Put yourself in their shoes for a minute and ask yourself if you'd want a disgruntled employee to continue to work for you while they have this other job lined up. Why would I want that person to continue to work for me and tell other employees about their new job and how good it will be and how bad it is here working for me? That is one problem I as an employer do not need.

There are two sides to this story people. I hope I was able to shed light on the side of the employer.

Austin

And now my former employer had to deal with the fallout of the badwill they demonstrated by going about this the way they did. The place was not some cutthroat insurance sales place or whatever, it was supposed to be all touchy feely and nice. Its all good and I'm moving on to what should be a new challenge and a better working environment. The bump in pay and perks doesn't hurt either.

[sprytel]

Congratulations on the new job, Joe. Just remember: everything ends badly, otherwise, it wouldn't end. Best to focus on the new opportunity in front of you.

[TomStrong]

As a business owner once an employee tells me they are moving on, I show them the door.

Not because I am a jerk of a boss or a jerk of a person, but once a person has made their mind up to move on, their mind is on their new job and not on the job I am paying them for.

You took a new job for a reason. Move on if you think the grass is greener and be glad they paid your severance.

Your employer owes you nothing more than the salary they paid you for your work. And, it sounds like they did that.

Put yourself in their shoes for a minute and ask yourself if you'd want a disgruntled employee to continue to work for you while they have this other job lined up. Why would I want that person to continue to work for me and tell other employees about their new job and how good it will be and how bad it is here working for me? That is one problem I as an employer do not need.

There are two sides to this story people. I hope I was able to shed light on the side of the employer.

Austin

Indeed you did.

[megowgsh]

As a business owner once an employee tells me they are moving on, I show them the door.

Not because I am a jerk of a boss or a jerk of a person, but once a person has made their mind up to move on, their mind is on their new job and not on the job I am paying them for.

You took a new job for a reason. Move on if you think the grass is greener and be glad they paid your severance.

Your employer owes you nothing more than the salary they paid you for your work. And, it sounds like they did that.

Put yourself in their shoes for a minute and ask yourself if you'd want a disgruntled employee to continue to work for you while they have this other job lined up. Why would I want that person to continue to work for me and tell other employees about their new job and how good it will be and how bad it is here working for me? That is one problem I as an employer do not need.

There are two sides to this story people. I hope I was able to shed light on the side of the employer.

Austin

[thunderbolt]

What's the best way to grow Jamaica Blue Mountain?

You have to check with Tommy Chong.

[LadyZod]

I'm disappointed on how your former place treated you; as a disposable cup. Most place treat their employees that way, unfortunately.

I am happy to hear you're in a better paying position. You deserve it.

Tell the the old management to take a leap into the lily pads.

[Hector]

I had the new job before I turned in my notice, former positions was at a public gardens in central florida and I really didn't think they would do me like that, I did send my exit interview form home so I could shoot it back to the HR person and President, so they had a nice read. New job is a big step up in pay at a college here in FLA. I cleaned out my stuff last weekend as I thought just maybe they would pull something like this. The department head is very petty and arrogant and my immediate supervisor is incompetent and I am not sure why he is there. He knows nothing about horticulture.

What's the best way to grow Jamaica Blue Mountain?

[SKotK]

They said that's what is done in management positions. That was it. Not two words from my department head.

Well. I guess that's modern corporate America for you.

It's hard not to get political about this one.

--SKot

[thunderbolt]

When a company shows no loyalty to their employees, how do they ever expect employees to show loyalty to their company? You gave them 13 years of your life and a courtesy exit notice, and they gave you the boot. Nice.

Just curious, what was their reasoning for showing you the door rather than letting you work out your days? Did they give any indication?

--SKot

They said that's what is done in management positions. That was it. Not two words from my department head.

[Godzilla]

Living well is the best revenge. Congrats on the new gig and enjoy it!

[SKotK]

When a company shows no loyalty to their employees, how do they ever expect employees to show loyalty to their company? You gave them 13 years of your life and a courtesy exit notice, and they gave you the boot. Nice.

Just curious, what was their reasoning for showing you the door rather than letting you work out your days? Did they give any indication?

--SKot

[megomania]

Congrats on the new job - I'm sure it was the right thing to do.

It sucks how they treated you but sadly that's how HR works...I got laid off 2 years ago after nearly 8 years at the company and they gave me 30 minutes to pack up my personal belongings and leave the building.

-Chris