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  • Hector
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  • pmwasson
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    Originally posted by Hector
    Carnival is full of crap, lol.
    I think that was the problem.

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  • Hector
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    Originally posted by Mikey
    I'm surprised nobody is making a big deal about the fact that Carnival could have saved everybody multiple days of agony if they would have just unloaded everybody in Mexico and then loaded them on a new ship

    Carnival said Mexico is too dangerous of a place to let people off and do the change

    They're treating Mexico like North Korea
    The funny thing is that there's a lot of cruise ships that dock in Mexican ports, and the tourists cetainly get off board to check out the local sites.

    You think the Caribbean is any safer than Mexico?

    Heck, Jamaica's murder rate is twice as high ss Mexico's, lol...




    Carnival is full of crap, lol.
    Last edited by Hector; Feb 16, '13, 2:22 AM.

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  • megomania
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    Cruises are probably one of the most risky vacations out there. You roll the dice, you take what you get. Put yourself out on a floating city with nowhere to go....I've been on about a dozen cruises. Every time I stepped onboard I knew the risks that something stupid could happen. It sucks these people went through this but it happens.

    -Chris

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  • Zemo
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    Very hard to sue a ship registered in another country and collect.

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  • 4NDR01D
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    It takes some (most?) people years and years of toiling away at jobs they may not love, and a lot of sacrifices and pinched pennies and putting in extra hours at work to be able to afford an expensive cruise. I'm sure there was at least some people who were on a honeymoon or a very first vacation. Pretty low to think spending a vacation in such a manner is humorous, or that anybody complaining about those conditions is "a whiny wussy" etc. They are not staying in some ****ty hotel that they can just leave, they are stuck there. I'm far far from a "just sue em" type of guy, but if I was on that cruise, I'd be looking for some compensation and it sure wouldn't be "free cruise" offers I'd be looking for.

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  • Werewolf
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    Originally posted by Zemo
    There's always going to be people that way over react.

    http://money.msn.com/now/post.aspx?p...5-98c152669433
    With all do respect to the man in the article, not everyone is going to find this:

    "When asked where he went to the bathroom, his only responses were “sink” and “red bag.” He also noted that there were “some parts of the ship where sewage was leaking down the walls and from the ceiling.”

    Like a good time or a camping trip. The passengers are also at risk to some serious health issues after spending a week in such unclean conditions.

    Originally posted by enyawd72
    No it wouldn't be enjoyable, but I wouldn't be traumatized either. Must be the farmer in me.
    My mother was a farmer growing up. Working with cow manure is one thing. Being trapped on a boat with limited sanitation with no plumbing or electricity surrounded by human feces and urine is another.

    I don't judge the passengers and I can see why people could find it traumatic.

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  • enyawd72
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    Originally posted by Werewolf
    So, you would have found this enjoyable?



    Sounds rather traumatizing to me. Nothing I'd wish to endure. Sound like a fun week to you?



    It was a nightmarish, physically and mentally scaring ordeal in which the crew was often kidnapped and many people did not survive the trip. Even the crew members which had not been abducted knew they were in for months of pure hell if they survived at all. It was not a vacation by any stretch of the imagination. If I paid for what was advertised as relaxing vacation and ended up spending a week being surrounded by human waste with no electricty and no plumbing, there is a good chance I would be traumatized by it.
    No it wouldn't be enjoyable, but I wouldn't be traumatized either. Must be the farmer in me. I've stood knee deep in every type of crap imaginable. Try cleaning out a barn in the spring after the animals have been shut in all winter. Every inch of you gets covered in horse, cow, and pig crap...

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  • Zemo
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    There's always going to be people that way over react.

    http://money.msn.com/now/post.aspx?p...5-98c152669433

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  • z3zep
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    Sorry, but if I paid all that money for a vacation and had to sleep on deck, the place reeking of urine and feces. I would be Traumatized. I have a strong reaction to smells, honestly I would be barfing the entire time. Also, think of how unsanitary that is what kind of bacteria was everyone exposed to.

    200 years ago on the ships -- i doubt the walls were running with feces and the decks with urine.

    I think if it was you on that ship -- you would complain too.

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  • Werewolf
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    Originally posted by Figuremod73
    A few hundred years ago people were much tougher but unpleasant.
    A few hundred years ago the life was short and miserable. You were lucky to make it to 30. Sanitation was poor, birth rate mortality was very high and sickness and disease was rampant. The human mind and body can only take so much punishment. People on average weren't neccessarily tougher. They just died a lot more and at much younder ages.

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  • Figuremod73
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    I think they could have saved alot of aggrevation by transferring everyone to another ship. I'm sure everyone will be reinbursed BUT measures should have already been in place for an event like that happening.

    Technology has made us pampered. A few hundred years ago people were much tougher but unpleasant.

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  • Zemo
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    Originally posted by enyawd72
    I was thinking how funny it is that passengers disembarking in Alabama were "traumatized" and some were sobbing...all because they were on a boat with no electricity or plumbing, and limited food and water for six days.

    200 years ago they traveled for months like that... it was called everyday sailing. We have become a society of wussies.

    Yea, I don't get it. Traumatized give me a break. imho people are silly to go on these thing to begin with, your at sea most of the time, you have limited time at your destination, stuff like this happens a lot. Carnival can't control an engine room fire. Just fly to your destination and go to an inclusive resort.
    Last edited by Zemo; Feb 15, '13, 3:53 PM.

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  • Mikey
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    I'm kinda mountainy

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  • Earth 2 Chris
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    You are manly for sure Mikey. But Tom (MIB41) can take you. He is a mountain of a man. Makes Toby Keith look like Crispin Glover.

    Chris

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