Am I really that out of the loop?

[Gorn Captain]

In general, the people who complain about technology are the people who don't understand it or don't have it.

Maybe they just can't wrap their heads around it (in which case it isn't their fault), or maybe they cannot afford it (again not their fault).

[kingdom warrior]

It's a separate skill set. I still maintain that there isn't a correct way to do any art; it's all about the end result.

Don C.

Yes there is, there are Professionals and there are amateurs.
an Amateur clicks and uses cheats to get his work done

a Pro critically thinks what he needs to do to make his design work. his drawing may go through many stages to get there.

Learning to use the proper tools is the first place you start, Learning how to traditionally do art is how you understand
how the Masters did it. How light comes to play how to mix colors and how to fix your mistakes. once you master traditional you can then work
in Digital if you so choose to do it.

Just because I can look under the hood of a car does not make me a mechanic
Just because I know my daughter is sick does not make me a Doctor.

The end results may be the same but in the end the Pro will always do better
because he can do IT ALL THE TIME over and over he or she is trained to come up with new ideas that the amateur can not do...........

[kingdom warrior]

I'm a Traditional Illustrator but I understand the computer side of it, it's just a matter of sitting down and working through it.

I pencil and ink and paint traditionally, but I will scan and enhance, watermark,resize etc on my Mac. I don't color on the computer, just don't have the patience for it...I'd rather just do it the old school way.

A lot of those contest you need to stay clear of, most of them are Popularity contest. especially if it's through facebook and voting for pieces unless you have 4000 friends you have no shot against a kid who has a thousands of friends who are all voting for him or her.

I entered a Duran Duran contest last year and it was brutal,so many hacks trying to get votes but Duran Duran did make choices of their favs and I got Honorable mention by them.

I don't mind a pro using new tools especially when they MASTERED the traditional ones, It's the hacks who I have a problem with who when you turn off the computer, can't reproduce on paper or canvas what they boast they can do on a computer......anyone is a Rembrandt with Great computer software, but that does not make you an artist.......

[ctc]

>However the inability to translate it into proper pixels and resolution leaves it virtually worthless on the digital stage. A true waste.

It's a separate skill set. I still maintain that there isn't a correct way to do any art; it's all about the end result.

As for the tech thing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saPhxZZQCWk

Don C.

[4NDR01D]

I've seen the future brother, and it is....WEIRD!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjhB6J23Qjs

[Mikey]

Was in walmart and seen what I thought was a crazy guy talking to himself.

Then I noticed he had a headphone earpiece and was apparently talking on the telephone in his ear.

Then I noticed other people with that thing in their ear too --- but they weren't talking .......

............. weird

[HardyGirl]

edit: double post

I really don't get the "Above it all" attitude that some people have towards technology. "Bah, facebook, stupid people sending messages back and forth, waste of friggin time, I don't even have a facebook account, therefore I'm better than the people that do blah blah blah", "Kids and their cell phones, always talking and texting blah blah blah", "Video games, kids always playing video games, when I was a kid I played scrabble blah blah blah".

I am the QUEEN of blah blah blah! I don't think I'm better than everyone else. And I obviously understand some level of technology to use a PC, maintain a website and use YouTube. However, I don't get the need people have to constantly talk on a phone, wherever they happen to be. Texting is something I will NEVER understand. I don't know who came up w/ the concept of typing on a phone, (I always thought phones were for talking!). If you're somewhere you can't talk out loud, you got no business being on the phone, in my opinion. I have a phone at home, and a phone at work, and an e-mail address. It's not like I'm hard to reach. The only time I use my cell is when I'm traveling, b/c my older brother worries about me. Other than that...

And yes, I'm anti-Facebook!

[The Toyroom]

I love tech...it's all about the future, baby! (Though I am still peeved at the delay on the personal flight packs...)

[enyawd72]

So all you have to do is make your painting, scan it in, crop it to the size they want and stick the logo on top of it in Photoshop. I'm sure Tim Burton would love to see your traditional media technique, that's how he does things too.

Well, why didn't they just say so? Jeez, that's like writing a fifty page manual on how to flip a light switch.

Honestly, I had no idea what I was supposed to do. I downloaded all the stuff they said to and it was just file after file of crap with no instructions on what to do with any of it.
It totally confused me to the point of giving up before I even started. Despite posting on here and a few other message boards, I am not tech savvy.
Dammit Jim, I'm a painter not a computer programmer!

[Captain Big Trousers]

Random thoughts:

I think a lot of really interesting art today is made by combining traditional media with digital trickery.

I haven't owned a mobile phone since 1998. It is possible.

I hate these modern "television" thingies. What ever happened to family hour, gathered around the radio?

I did have a laugh at a group of teen boys walking through the mall last week, all staring at their phone screens as they walked.

[Brazoo]

On one hand, I get it - because there IS a lot of bad art that is dependent on computers without much skill, but I think there's a HUGE difference between you and one of those dudes - because you HAVE SKILL.

So to YOU the computer is just another tool to make sure you're art looks the way you want!

[Brazoo]

Well, commercial work needs to adhere to certain specs and guidelines - whether it's digital or not... In fact it would actually be MORE complex if you were trying to create commercially reproducible artwork in the pre-digital age.

enyawd72 - You've got awesome skills man!

Don't make the computer component so daunting that it holds you back - compared to what you already know it's easy - feel free to ask questions!

[megoscott]

Looking around on the web, I feel bad for Tim Burton judging this thing. He's going to have to sort through some real crap.

[megoscott]

Here's a nice watercolor this person did.

[jimsmegos]

Their terminology is off-putting. "Reference" makes more sense than "assets". Assets are commonly parts that you would be required to use somehow, like a digital model or something, but that's not the case here. They could explain templates better too.

Those deviant art kids...

My point exactly... the terminology is a real 'B" It's like that movie "Nell" with Jodie Foster. We just don't understand each other very well, Chickabee.