Ebay psychos - whats going on?

[Brad]

I definitely remember that. I used to snipe before there were sniping services or there was even a term for it. Bidders would send me emails all the time telling me what a jerk I was bidding at the last second and not giving them a chance to make another bid.

Those were referred to as a nastygram and were a badge of honor on the bidding board.

[mikeMc6]

I notice a lot of "buyers remorse" for any collectible made after, say, 1982, so I try avoid selling after that time period as there can be much grief and flakiness from buyers. I also agree that recession fatigue or "money thirst" mentioned earlier is much more apparent. I just got my first creepy message here on mm from a zero post-er so I'm hoping its a buddy playing a practical joke. Lonely wackos are everywhere.

[TMANSTOYS]

Ebay is full of crazy people. I've been lucky so far with the feedback but everything hasn't been easy..

[palitoy]

It's not just Ebay, I had this guy:

Richard Aleong who goes by "kato" in some circles orders something from my Ecrater store late Sunday. I got back into town on Tuesday afternoon (it was a long weekend), pack the item the next day and boom, he's filing a charge back on me! It's been two business days!

He claims he's been emailing me but I have nothing, so I just decide I'd rather not do the deal with such a hot head and refund his money. He leaves me a negative.

The stupid part? he would have had the item the next day because I was going to use next door courier (i do that in the GTA).

What's funny is, I know this guy and plan to bring it up to him at the next show i see him at.

[enyawd72]

I've been on the buyer's end of that a few times, and I don't like having to eat shipping b/c of a seller's mistake / fraud. A few months ago I bought 2 comic lots that arrived in much worse shape than described (e.g. "excellent condition file-copies!" = VG-F). I asked for a refund, but first asked for the purchase price + shipping + return shipping up-front, as I didn't trust the seller to reimburse me after the fact. He declined; I disputed; I won & got a refund & kept the comics. Glad e-bay is addressing the shipping issue. I would've been happy to return the comics.

If you got your money back, you should have returned the comics. Keeping both was wrong. Condition is a very touchy thing, since a lot of it is subjective depending on the person. Two people will grade the same book differently, and while some sellers are dishonest, some buyers are also extremely picky to the point of being anal.

[cyberlord]

Ebay actually changed the policy on that now. They will pay for the return shipping if the seller doesn't. I actually agree with that one. Not going by your case bud, but if i buy something from a seller and it's not correct by no fault of mine, why should i as the buyer pay more money out of my pocket simply to get the money back i paid originally? With that said, of course there are the scumbags who abuse the system.

also if you are in the uk and you are buying from the usa- then to post the item back is going to cost you nearly the same as you are going to be refunded

[Duncan]

I've been on the buyer's end of that a few times, and I don't like having to eat shipping b/c of a seller's mistake / fraud. A few months ago I bought 2 comic lots that arrived in much worse shape than described (e.g. "excellent condition file-copies!" = VG-F). I asked for a refund, but first asked for the purchase price + shipping + return shipping up-front, as I didn't trust the seller to reimburse me after the fact. He declined; I disputed; I won & got a refund & kept the comics. Glad e-bay is addressing the shipping issue. I would've been happy to return the comics.

[MegoMark71]

I was talking about the return shipping bud.

[Toyman_Chris]

Ebay actually changed the policy on that now. They will pay for the return shipping if the seller doesn't. I actually agree with that one. Not going by your case bud, but if i buy something from a seller and it's not correct by no fault of mine, why should i as the buyer pay more money out of my pocket simply to get the money back i paid originally? With that said, of course there are the scumbags who abuse the system.

They didn't change the extortion policy. I am simply saying that the seller doesn't have to pay the return fees. The buyer in this case is basically saying, "give me all of the money back & I keep the product or I give you a negative and try to screw you over with Ebay and making the top seller status."

I would love to know this guys ID so I can block him, if you care to PM it to me.

[MegoMark71]

Send the money first huh? um yeah doesn't quite work that way. Total scammer all the way

[spacecaps]

Ebay actually changed the policy on that now. They will pay for the return shipping if the seller doesn't. I actually agree with that one. Not going by your case bud, but if i buy something from a seller and it's not correct by no fault of mine, why should i as the buyer pay more money out of my pocket simply to get the money back i paid originally? With that said, of course there are the scumbags who abuse the system.

I get that too. I actually have a claim in right now for a hockey jersey I bought. When it arrived the crest on the front was threadbare in spots. I asked the seller if I could send it back and exchange it for one that wasn't damaged and they said fine so long as I included $12 for a restocking fee. I wouldn't have minded paying the return shipping but I was like,
'Why should I have to pay for restocking when you sent me a damaged product?" To which they replied they're just a middleman.

In the case with the Mad Clowns, this guy didn't bother opening a claim. If he had, the shipping wouldn't have fallen on me regardless of what he decided. Ebay would have taken care of it if he didn't. But he insisted I send him the money so he could return the figures and I refused. What really gets me is he didn't even bother about a claim even after complaining about the figures, which apparently he's keeping despite being so disappointed with them..

[MegoMark71]

Yeah i agree with that. Any jerk who even brings up feedback should be kicked off for extortion.

[MegoMark71]

Ebay actually changed the policy on that now. They will pay for the return shipping if the seller doesn't. I actually agree with that one. Not going by your case bud, but if i buy something from a seller and it's not correct by no fault of mine, why should i as the buyer pay more money out of my pocket simply to get the money back i paid originally? With that said, of course there are the scumbags who abuse the system.

[spacecaps]

If you have the email where he threatened bad feedback, you can call customer service. That is basically extortion. Seriously. You offered him a full refund based on Ebay guidelines and he used the "threat" of a negative feedback to force more money out of you. I talked with my Ebay rep and she told me if I run across an email like yours to let her know.

Good to know. I gotta go through my mail and find it. The guy came off as such a jerk in his responses too, I'd love to be able to get back at him.

[Toyman_Chris]

Wow..just got my second negative feedback. This one was for a set of CTVT Mad Clown figures. They left here in perfect condition and were packed great. The buyer contacted me a month after getting the figures to tell me they were opened and the bubbles were cracked. I offered him a 50% refund + he could get to keep the figures which he turned down since he told me he only wanted these figures carded. So I offered him a 100% refund which he said he would only accept so long as I paid for his return shipping. I told him no service in the world would do that and if he filed a claim with ebay stating that he was unsatisfied, they would issue him a refund so long as he shipped the figures back to me but he had to pay for that shipping. Still he insisted I pay the return shipping and threatened bad feedback but when I flat out refused he left the negative. I really want him to list something cheap so I can buy it from him and return the favor. It'll be worth the cost for the satisfaction.

If you have the email where he threatened bad feedback, you can call customer service. That is basically extortion. Seriously. You offered him a full refund based on Ebay guidelines and he used the "threat" of a negative feedback to force more money out of you. I talked with my Ebay rep and she told me if I run across an email like yours to let her know.