did any chick in the 80's rock harder then Pat Benatar

[Hector]

she has a great voice though

Barbra Streisand's voice is way superior to Bette Midler's.

[toys2cool]

I never liked Bette Midler - even when she was 70's chic

she has a great voice though

[bizzaro megomauler]

nope but I am a bit biased as she is from my hometown. and we were fortunate to have Joan Jett here too...

[livnxxxl]

^^^ Aw HELL YEAH!!!!!

I was thinking of her as well. I have the CD Triumph and Agony. Pretty good stuff. "All we are".

[bgrimm77]

^^^ Aw HELL YEAH!!!!!

[Werewolf]

Doro Pesch rocked way harder

Warlock!

[Mikey]

I never liked Bette Midler - even when she was 70's chic

[Adam West]

Bette Midler for sure!

[bondtoddbond]

Where does Boy George fit into the mix?

[Hector]

I never said that Pat wasn't widely played on the radio back then, I was talking about "now"... I also didn't say she didn't have many hits... All I was getting at is "Mikey01" more or less referred to Joan as a "one hit wonder", I was just setting the record straight... And as far as my saying they only play like one song (maybe two) by Pat around here on a regular basis (now) isn't made up... On the station where the bulk of their programming is 80s stuff, they cut down the "hit lists" of almost everyone and continually play the same one or two songs by them and ignore the rest of their stuff... Pat is no exception to them doing that... I haven't listened to that station in a few years, maybe they changed it up a little, but I doubt it...

And I agree with your comment that in the end, record sales don't really "count" as far as if an artist is good or not... I'm sure almost everyone on here could name someone they like and people'd be like "Who?"

BTW: Pat and Joan did/do shows together... They came around here a couple times in the last few years...

Agreed with everything you said...

[huedell]

This is a funny topic --- "who rocked harder"
The real question is WHO MADE THE MOST MONEY ...
I'd have to give that to Heart and then Pat Benatar ... All the others don't compare.

OPRAH ROCKED HARDEST!

And Benatar's isn't/wasn't? I don't have a problem with that either, but if you're gonna say it about one and not the other (when overall Pat has fewer writing credits) that makes no sense... You can easily say the reason Pat did so well is that her songwriting was by others...
...

I looked over the songwriting credits for Benatar and it appears she has some
credits, but you know who has quite a bit of credits on Benatar songs? Her husband Neil. And, yes, there are other writers too.

The reason why I spoke about Jett having so many covers as hits earlier in
the first place was that I like Jett better than all else mentioned, and
thought I'd "come clean" with the writing credits. Like I said earlier,
I STILL think Benatar's hubby supplied a LOT more material than anyone that
was DIRECTLY in Jett's camp/band.

Jett seems to have more of the "Hey, I'll cover this song that another band
did....or some completely outside writers put together" thing going on.

Again, not that it matters...but since you brought it up, I thought I'd respond
with my opinion after a quick glance thru Benetar's album writing credits on
the wiki site.

[Mikey]

This is a funny topic --- "who rocked harder"

The real question is WHO MADE THE MOST MONEY ...

I'd have to give that to Heart and then Pat Benatar ... All the others don't compare.

[apes3978]

And Benatar's isn't/wasn't? I don't have a problem with that either, but if you're gonna say it about one and not the other (when overall Pat has fewer writing credits) that makes no sense... You can easily say the reason Pat did so well is that her songwriting was by others...

Even HEART had outside compositions... That's mainly where their 80s stuff came from...

One reason that JOAN does so well, is that her songwriting momentum was buoyed by many others.... which I'm totally at ease with.

[huedell]

LITA FORD has alweays been a useless pig when it came to music
or anything related, EXCEPT regarding her OUT FOR BLOOD/DANCING
ON THE EDGE period.... which, ironically, most mainstreamers don't know about anyway.

PAT BENETAR has a nice collection of pop songs..... I'll give her that.

JOAN JETT has the coolest voice of any mainstream rock chick
and is "THE" icon of hard rock chicks that has endured into 2010....
on reason that JOAN does so well, is that her songwriting momentum
was buoyed by many others.... which I'm totally at ease with.

Incidentally "I HATE MYSELF FOR LOVING YOU" and "CRIMSON & CLOVER" were huge hits for JOAN that I remember doing well as they came out...
and Joan's success with BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN'S LIGHT OF DAY wasn't too shabby either.

[toys2cool]

This thread makes me want to listen to Patti Smith - Because the Night

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0brHGJ6xqbk

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lol i like that song