Shoplifter strangled to death by clerk for stealing...crayons?

[Hector]

lol! come on, I know there's no way you would ever think that way

I think you are finally getting it...

[Hector]

That's harsh, man

You guys are too easy...

[Joe90]

How 'bout bootleg DVD's, I believe I own a few of those, too. If I were to be shived for owning my Batman '66 DVD's would this be okay with you "tough on crime" folks?

I have a set of those too, but mine are a bad copy and heavily pixilated.

If you have a nice set, and can make some copies I'd gladly take a bullet for you...

[jimbutsu]

I wonder how all you anti-thievery types feel about illegal downloading? Is this crime worthy of corporal punishment as well? How about snagging a single Brach's butterscotch drop from the bulk candy bin and not paying for it? Should I be drawn and quartered for such an offense? I must confess, I've done this a time or two. How 'bout bootleg DVD's, I believe I own a few of those, too. If I were to be shived for owning my Batman '66 DVD's would this be okay with you "tough on crime" folks?

The dude stole toothpaste.

I can't wait until Lars Ulrich chokes someone to death.

[Bill]

Crayons and toothpaste.

Neither is a necessity; snicker away, but I'm serious.

It's sad no matter where you stand. Neither party expected the outcome.

[Doc]

Always willing to give someone the benefit of a heat of the moment crime.

Now as far as stealing and assault. Sure start with a finger on the non dominate hand. Next is the hand. If you are actually still commiting crimes with one hand which is pretty hard to do then the other hand comes off.

That person is at the mercy of the society that he preyed upon for charity.

Rediculous to think about but if somehow you are still committing crimes "Unarmed" well then the leg goes next.

Thats alot more merciful the just shooting them in the head for one crime. And more cost efficient then jail time.

Fact is with this system you are not going to have criminals with huge rap sheets constantly harming society.

[Doc]

Murder shouldn't have a second chance.

Always willing to give someone the benefit of a heat of the moment crime.

Now as far as stealing and assault. Sure start with a finger on the non dominate hand. Next is the hand. If you are actually still commiting crimes with one hand which is pretty hard to do then the other hand comes off.

That person is at the mercy of the society that he preyed upon for charity.

Rediculous to think about but if somehow you are still committing crimes "Unarmed" well then the leg goes next.

Thats alot more merciful the just shooting them in the head for one crime. And more cost efficient then jail time.

[LonnieFisher]

Everyone keeps skipping the part that 3 other people had to help hold this guy down and a sheriff that was standing right there.. What started as a clerk trying to stop a thief, very well could ended up having him in a fight for his life.

If they weren't on store property the guy wasn't at work anymore. It wasn't his job...

[LonnieFisher]

You steal you go and have a finger surgically removed. The cost of sugery done humanly is far less then supporting said person through jail time. And honestly no one gets any kind of help in jail.

The next theft they lose the hand. They can still work and function in society with one hand. and I'm sure they will think twice after the finger.

Rape ... surgical castration. Sex offenders cannot be cured. Meds only work if you actually take them.

Murder. First offense or one person. Jail time with option of parole. Second offense or more then one body. Death

And yes I did what I did and would take a similar appropriate punishment

Murder shouldn't have a second chance.

[toys2cool]

This is nothing like what happened with the CVS clerk. It wasn't his home, no one was stealing his property, no one was in his garage.

yeah i gotta agree with Joe here, Like I said before...it wasn't his job as a CVS clerk to go after anyone

[SlipperyLilSuckers]

You steal you go and have a finger surgically removed. The cost of sugery done humanly is far less then supporting said person through jail time. And honestly no one gets any kind of help in jail.

The next theft they lose the hand. They can still work and function in society with one hand. and I'm sure they will think twice after the finger.

Rape ... surgical castration. Sex offenders cannot be cured. Meds only work if you actually take them.

Murder. First offense or one person. Jail time with option of parole. Second offense or more then one body. Death

And yes I did what I did and would take a similar appropriate punishment

Yep, I can fullly agree with that.

I just don't think you should be killed for stealing crayons and toothpaste.

[Zemo]

Your assuming that the thief was not fighting and that the Manger was just trying to hold on to him, so he couldn't hurt him. Obviously the the thief was fighting because 3 other people had to intervene also. This Clerk/Manager will lose his job and may even be charged, even after the police did not charge him, but because of politics. But I bet no jury convicts on anything serious.

Also the second link is very relevant, it also happened in Chicago and it was over petty theft. There where no charges filed against those people and the one citizen forearmed him in the throat and kicked him in the gut. No charges.

[JDeRouen]

The second link doesn't say much of anything other than opinions; the pertinent information from the first link - legalese from Illinois - is this:

"Any person may arrest another when he or she has
reasonable grounds to believe that an offense other than an ordinance
violation is being committed."

None of this states that your place of employment is akin to your home, nor does it give citizens the right to .
mete out justice in the form of strangling someone to death.

[Zemo]

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legi...0HB2241LV.html

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/arre...ns-arrest.html

[JDeRouen]

Where did you get your information? Everything I've ever read tells me differently. If you have a specific federal or state law that supports your case, I'd be happy to read it.