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  • toys2cool
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    Originally posted by theantiquetiger
    I think it is just the opposite. I think from the mid-60's to the mid-80', steroids were more widely used by more players.
    I agree, in the 80's no one even tested for it in most sports. Just ask Bill Romanowski

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  • toys2cool
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    Originally posted by jwyblejr
    You think LeBron would be able to hang with the likes of Wilt?
    are you serious? LeBron could easily end up as the greatest of all time , besides it's different positions

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  • AUSSIE-Rebooted-AMM
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    Great Question Mikey!

    Lets look at almost any olympic sport. . . .it is the technology that takes off those 100th of a second that break todays records, not the athletes.

    Shoes, poles, swimsuits, bicycle components, the shape of helmets, javelins etc etc. . . not to mention every athlete out there trying to discover the perfect undetectable performance enhancing drug.

    There is no way to compare todays athletes and those of the past. At least those in the past, broke records based on their raw skill, strength and determination, real people pushing themselves to the limit.

    Lets go back to the Greek way. . . . .do the sports naked, no techno shoes etc. . . . .well. . . . for the female events anyway. . . . .

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  • Captain_Mego
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    Don't get me started on that....lol

    Not to cut on anyones team. But do you really think Brady could handel the preassure of the old time blitz and destroy.
    I remeber games where Qb'a got all out mugged.Or how about when you start off with ball and lose ball that's a fumble cut and dry. Or The bump and run when it really was bump!! and run. Oh brother what a watered down version we have.
    I would like to also add this money issue. Guy's getting millions and have'nt even steped on the feild yet. Rookies I mean.
    Oh brother! lol Dont get me started..lol I also hate indoor football it's just weird. lol
    Last edited by Captain_Mego; Oct 20, '09, 6:16 PM.

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  • Hector
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    Originally posted by theantiquetiger
    You are comparing apples to oranges. Is Brady, Manning, etc, better than the QB's of old, I think so, because of better year round training & conditioning.
    QB is probably one of the few positions where an old timer could compete in today's game...because QB's is not about physicality...it's about mind set....well...a good arm helps...but old timers like Johnny Unitas could throw the ball just as good as anybody else today.

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  • Hector
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    Originally posted by toys2cool
    sports teams from today would crush the teams from the 70's, not only are they bigger,faster and stronger now but their skills are crazy!!
    In one game yes...but not over an entire season...and I'll tell you why.

    Take away their pain killers, their steroids, their fancy lockers, their Gatorade drinks, their fancy air-cooled fans they get in the Summer, their fancy heaters they get in the Winter, their modern and improved surgical procedures they get now after an injury, the constant pampering they receive, and last but not least...take away their big paychecks...the new modern players would be crying for mommy by the end of the season.

    Back then...they were true warriors...yes...smaller and slower...but much, much tougher...ask Jim Otto.

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  • theantiquetiger
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    Originally posted by jwyblejr
    Please. Today's players are nothing but a bunch of pansies. They have too many rules to protect players. Someone like Tom Brady wouldn't stand a chance against the D of old teams. Baseball players too especially pitchers. Look at how very few can go a full game. And don't get me started on basketball. You think LeBron would be able to hang with the likes of Wilt?
    You are comparing apples to oranges. Is Brady, Manning, etc, better than the QB's of old, I think so, because of better year round training & conditioning.

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  • jwyblejr
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    Please. Today's players are nothing but a bunch of pansies. They have too many rules to protect players. Someone like Tom Brady wouldn't stand a chance against the D of old teams. Baseball players too especially pitchers. Look at how very few can go a full game. And don't get me started on basketball. You think LeBron would be able to hang with the likes of Wilt?

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  • theantiquetiger
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    Originally posted by fallensaviour
    Athletes of yesterday were real human beings,athletes of today are chemically altered hybrids.No comparison.I'll take the heroes of old thanks.

    Nowadays every sport is tainted by drug use for a bigger better "athlete".
    I think it is just the opposite. I think from the mid-60's to the mid-80', steroids were more widely used by more players.

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  • fallensaviour
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    Athletes of yesterday were real human beings,athletes of today are chemically altered hybrids.No comparison.I'll take the heroes of old thanks.

    Nowadays every sport is tainted by drug use for a bigger better "athlete".

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  • toys2cool
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    I will give you that they played much tougher back then, QB's use to get slaughtered, now you touch them and it's a 15 yard penalty

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  • toys2cool
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    sports teams from today would crush the teams from the 70's, not only are they bigger,faster and stronger now but their skills are crazy!!

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  • Brown Bear
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    I grew up watching Larry Holmes on wide world of sports.

    Just imagine ONE heavyweight champion, fighting the #1 contender, free on TV.

    Now THAT was cool.

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  • saildog
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    Originally posted by kingdom warrior
    Todays athlete is far superior than the athletes from the past.....and I'm not talking about steroid users either.
    I think that is a fair statement and I am glad you made the distinction as to why in your post.

    This is one of those arguments that becomes circular because people will account for it one way, but not the other. "Today's athlete would mop the floor with the old timers." You simply can't know that for sure because there is too much to account for. All things would have to be equal for it to be a fair assessment and that could never happen. In other words...there has been no evolutionary leap that makes today's athlete genetically predisposed to be a superior athlete. Yes, modern training methods and developments in game technique will, but that is only helping them get the most out of what they were born with (which is the same stuff the old-timers were born with). There is no new species of human called Superior Athleticus, as some would believe.
    Last edited by saildog; Oct 20, '09, 2:53 PM.

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  • kingdom warrior
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    LOL!!!!!!!!! Yeah there are a few from the past that were beast, but were smaller in scale. Linemen in the old days were not 300 pound monsters like today.

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