Alamo

[Mikey]

Well at least you weren't kicked out of the Alamo for the same reason Ozzy was

[Dave Mc]

I got kicked off the Alamo property last time I was in San Antonio. We were videotaping a segment for a show and didn't have permission to tape outside the Alamo from "The Sisters". We were told to leave.

We just went across the street and shot the segment, still using the Alamo as a backdrop and since we were no longer on the property, they couldn't do anything about it.

Sorry, went OT there, but it was Alamo related, and how many of you can say you were kicked out of the Alamo?

[txteach]

The Alamo fascinates me so I have done a lot of research on it. The fact that 187 men tied up 3,000 mexican soldiers long enough for Texas to become a republic I find pretty cool. Santa Anna has to be one of the worst world leaders ever. I felt bad for the common Mexican soldier when I read how he treated them. When he was told he would lose a lot of men in an assault he said "so we lose some chickens, they are expendable". Not what a leader should say.

[johnnystorm]

Oh, and I would like to point out that The Alamo has no basement.

[johnnystorm]

American History....or just History in general is facinating ! It's what we were built on! I never understood...My wife for example HATES History , she say's it was boring and too hard. I dont see the boring , our past is so incredibly colorful as well as the world's history I cant see how one would get bored ! And then the whole History being hard thing....How could one studying History think that it's hard ? HISTORY NEVER CHANGES...THAT'S WHY IT'S HISTORY ! It's not like it's ever-changeing ! Or you have to remember fresh material that is subject to change.......Oh Nevermind I'm just upsetting myself........

My daughter had the same problem. I got her to understand it a little better by showing her that history is just STORIES of people's lives, and if you look it on more of an individual level like that, it becomes more than the divided eras you have to study in class. These people all faced the same basic needs we face today- food, housing, war, etc. - only it was a lot harder then to achieve them. How they overcame these things in the time & places they lived is fascinating, and of tremendous value to our lives now.
If anyone hasn't done so, I recommend the book 1776 by David McCullogh. I went to a lecture he gave recently on history and it was facscinating. He brings home that point very well. If he ever tours in your area- go see him by all means! A fascinating man!

[hobub]

That's right. This is all sacred "fought for" land and we just seem to take it for granted. I'm bias to "American" well, duh, because that's my heritage. But everyone should be proud of their own heritage and their ancestry.

Teach's specifics of the Alamo reminded me of what I've recently learned about the Civil War. The reason soo many men (including Generals) were cut down during that event was that they had several (over a hundred) patents in weaponry at that time. The round ball ammo that was used was what the generals based their game plans on. But it wasn't long before they used the "mini bullet" you know, the one that has a coned top with a threaded bottom. It spun as it left the barrel and went way further, thus putting the lines of men in range when previously they were out of range. And these guys were using this types of weaponry at each other thus cutting everyone down and creating the casualties we see in those gory photos. The weaponry outdated the warfare.

[bgrimm77]

American History....or just History in general is facinating ! It's what we were built on! I never understood...My wife for example HATES History , she say's it was boring and too hard. I dont see the boring , our past is so incredibly colorful as well as the world's history I cant see how one would get bored ! And then the whole History being hard thing....How could one studying History think that it's hard ? HISTORY NEVER CHANGES...THAT'S WHY IT'S HISTORY ! It's not like it's ever-changeing ! Or you have to remember fresh material that is subject to change.......Oh Nevermind I'm just upsetting myself........

[Hector]

Good post, txteach. ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

[txteach]

The reason the Mexicans lost so many men at the Alamo was most of them were conscripted as the army went north. Unfortunately most were farmers and had little training. Also Santa Anna was not big on buying the best weapons and bought muskets from Napoleon that were about 30 years old and outdated compared to the defenders kentucky rifles.Both sides showed tremendous bravery in the battle. It's not easy to run up to a well defended position (the Alamo) while bullets are flying and scale a wall to fight further. No need to say why the Texans were brave. They knew that by staying they faced impending death. A guy by the name of Rose did slip out and get past the Mexican lines to tell a lot of what we know today. Lord I love history!! Crockett was not a young man during the fight. He died at 50 years old. Colonel Travis died defending the west wall. The Mexican soldiers said he fought bravely before taking a bullet to the temple.

[Hector]

Mmm...better keep my comments to myself.

[bgrimm77]

The best line in that movie is from Billy Bob..."I'm a screamer !!!"

[hobub]

http://www.fessparker.com/

[Mikey]

YouTube - Fess Parker Sings Davy Crockett

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[hobub]

Very good movie but filled with inaccuracies. As a Texas history teacher I do think it's the most accurate one out there so that says a lot about the other Alamo movies. Love the fact that San Jacinto battle is in it also. What a Texas victory!!! Guess I'm bias.

Great piece of Texas (let alone American) History. We all should be as bias.

[hobub]

When I imagine Davy Crockett, I always see Fess Parker

That's because you sir, are a 1960's child.