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  • shyndman
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    Amazing how much emotion MJ stirs up - and I thought he was yesterday's news. Talented guy thats become rather sad and creepy over time. The thing with children is alarming and I hope untrue. No one should get away with that - no matter how much money they have . . .

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  • Vortigern99
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    Hector, your knowledge and understanding of the Mexican mindset does not translate perforce to a knowledge and understanding of the African-American mindset. Even if you could demonstrate that American blacks as a group have this "white=superior" mindset -- which you cannot, because it does not exist -- you would still not be able to show that this single individual, MJ, shares that mindset.

    Your opinion in this regard is not substantiated by any facts. I continue to reject your assessment of MJ's personal beliefs and opinions.

    That MJ has confessed he likes to sleep with children (in a non-sexual way, according to him) is admittedly creepy and very likely psychotic (= out of touch with reality). However, once again, this does not translate into a "white=superior" mindset. The one does not follow logically from the other.

    Originally posted by Hector
    He wants to be something he is not.

    It is not presumptuous...it's right there in black and white (no pun intended)

    I know many relatives who are the same as Michael...trust me...it's an inferiority complex thing...it's prevalent in Mexico as well.

    Spaniards, superior...natives, inferior.

    And why do people, when they disagree with me, have to say that I'm a nice guy and all?

    Totally irrelevant to this conversation, lol.

    Besides, he's a fifty year old man who loves to cuddle with kids...I could give a flying crap about him anyway...I have no respect for him...he is a creepy weirdo.

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  • Gorn Captain
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    I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but isn't it odd that all his "conditions" always have as an end result that he "looks whiter"?
    Skin paler, hair straightened, narrow nose, red lips....
    Seems like a plan to me...

    Honestly, I think he's totally messed up. Not his fault. He seems to have had a terrible childhood. I think he just wants to get away from his own identity. A man on the run from himself.

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  • Mikey
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    It's no secret Michael Jackson wants to be white with a passion.

    Funny thing is, he don't want to be Caucasian --- HE WANTS TO BE WHITE

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  • darklord1967
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    Originally posted by Vortigern99
    If the germ did this to his nose, what made him turn white then?
    "Attack of the killer bleach?"


    Michael has asserted he has a skin condition that creates blotches (I forget the name but I'm sure someone else here knows), so he lightened his skin to remove the blotch. He insists he's proud to be black, and who can contradict him?
    The name of the skin disorder is Vitiligo also known as Leukoderma. It is a chronic skin disease that causes loss of pigment, resulting in irregular pale patches of skin. It occurs when the melanocytes, cells responsible for skin pigmentation, die or are unable to function. The precise cause of vitiligo is complex and not fully understood.

    Michael stated in an interview with Oprah Winfrey back in the early 1990's that he "evens out" his blochy skin pigmentation with make-up.

    But there is no such thing (as far I know) as skin "bleaching" or skin "lightening". I don't know of the existence of any such medical or cosmetic procedure.

    With Michael Jackson, I believe that (due to his eccentric and unusual ways) people have actually come to enjoy making up unusual stories about him that are just plain untrue to perpetuate the bizzare aspects of his personality.

    After all, what's more "fun" to believe? That Michael Jackson suffers from a medically known skin pigmentation disorder that he cosmetically covers up with make-up -- OR that Michael Jackson with his wealth and fame has somehow developed a procedure for "bleaching / lightening" skin pigmentation that no one else has ever heard of or used themselves?

    It may be cynically "fun" for some folks to believe the latter, but the truth is much more likely to be the former.

    I agree that Jackson has a very strange and eccentric personality. I even agree that many aspects of his life are examples of poor judgement on his part. I'll even go as far as saying that he likely has some serious psychological (very possibly criminal) issues regarding his relationships with children.

    However, I do not believe that he deserves to be infected with a flesh-eating virus.

    That's just horrible.


    Originally posted by Vortigern99
    Well, I have no explanation for his blond/white children, except that either 1) they aren't really his biological children.

    Most likely scenario.


    Originally posted by Vortigern99
    Claiming he "aspires to be white" is incredibly presumptuous. I'm sorry, Hector, you're an easy-going guy and I've always appreciated your light-hearted humor, but you're way off base here IMO. You're presuming at least two things here: 1) That you have insight into another person's mind well enough to understand his unspoken beliefs and opinions, and 2) That Michael Jackson feels that whiteness is superior to blackness.

    I'm sorry, but I just. Cannot. Agree.
    I gotta go along with you, there, Vort.

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  • thunderbolt
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    You're welcome.

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  • Hector
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    Originally posted by thunderbolt
    Mikey's a freak, and doesn't deserve the adulation he receives from the masses.
    Thank you.

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  • thunderbolt
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    Mikey's a freak, and doesn't deserve the adulation he receives from the masses.

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  • Hector
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    He wants to be something he is not.

    It is not presumptuous...it's right there in black and white (no pun intended)

    I know many relatives who are the same as Michael...trust me...it's an inferiority complex thing...it's prevalent in Mexico as well.

    Spaniards, superior...natives, inferior.

    And why do people, when they disagree with me, have to say that I'm a nice guy and all?

    Totally irrelevant to this conversation, lol.

    Besides, he's a fifty year old man who loves to cuddle with kids...I could give a flying crap about him anyway...I have no respect for him...he is a creepy weirdo.

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  • Vortigern99
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    Well, I have no explanation for his blond/white children, except that either 1) they aren't really his biological children, or 2) the pictures of them are not clear enough to tell the full story of their heritage.

    Claiming he "aspires to be white" is incredibly presumptuous. I'm sorry, Hector, you're an easy-going guy and I've always appreciated your light-hearted humor, but you're way off base here IMO. You're presuming at least two things here: 1) That you have insight into another person's mind well enough to understand his unspoken beliefs and opinions, and 2) That Michael Jackson feels that whiteness is superior to blackness.

    I'm sorry, but I just. Cannot. Agree.

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  • Hector
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    Originally posted by Vortigern99

    Michael has asserted he has a skin condition that creates blotches (I forget the name but I'm sure someone else here knows), so he lightened his skin to remove the blotch. He insists he's proud to be black, and who can contradict him?
    Boloney.

    He aspires to be white.

    Have you seen his kids?

    Both blonde and not a trace of African ancestry...zero (that's the contradiction right there).

    So you are to tell me Michael also changed his DNA?

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  • Vortigern99
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    If the germ did this to his nose, what made him turn white then?
    "Attack of the killer bleach?"


    Michael has asserted he has a skin condition that creates blotches (I forget the name but I'm sure someone else here knows), so he lightened his skin to remove the blotch. He insists he's proud to be black, and who can contradict him?

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  • Gorn Captain
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    If the germ did this to his nose, what made him turn white then?
    "Attack of the killer bleach?"

    I still believe the theory that repeated surgeries have compromised the blood stream to his nose, causing it to "wither".
    For that very same reason, I've never had a ***** reduction, though I could really use one...

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  • thunderbolt
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    Does he have any flesh to eat anyway?

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