Fantastic Four 2 SPOILER thread!!! BEWARE!!!

[VintageMike]

I just saw it today and have to say I think it's getting a bad rap. maybe spillover from the firts one being a bit lame. But I thought this very good. I agree with a previous poster in that things need to be done in such a way that it can be wrapped with the movie. It also has to be accessible to people who may not be familair with the comics. Plenty of classic FF style stuff and loved the intro of the Fantasticar! Some comic book concepts require more tweaking than others. I don't think they did anything here that was so terrible.

[toys2cool]

I just saw it,and man I have to say i really liked it,That silver surfer was out of hand.It was no where as bad as part one.I'd watch it again for sure

[The Sentry]

That's my dilemma, Hector. It wasn't the worst Comic Movie EVER (and I definitely want them to make more and more Comic Movies), but how does one balance being supportive but not being supportive of crap?

I'm just afraid if I don't go, we will never get the Avengers Movie I dream of (and even if we do, what if it is crap?).

Oh God no! Perish the thought!

I have learned that the best comic bok movies are the ones Frank Miller has his hands on. Plain and simple.

Marvel lets me down as far as movies go, they want a film that gerneral people will go and see. The movie franchises don't really reflect what we want to see, they have us (comic readers) buying the comics for that.

Only reason I would go see it is cause my Ma wants to see SS on the screen (he's her favorite charater)

[JDeRouen]

One thing I didn't like (same goes for Spidey 3) was the Stan Lee cameo. I mean, he even tells us his name! I liked the cameo from the original Spider-Man movie - blink and you miss it. They kinda hit us over the head with it this time, both in FF 2 and Spidey 3.

[Cosmicman]

GOSH! didn't see it yet...but already the first one was so a bad experience!
how they can take a genial character as doom and make him just a sort of wall street manager...? why Stan Lee didn't follow the production as for the spider man's movies?
incredible missed occasion to make a good movie
ciao
Al

Because Stan Lee has become a corporate *****. If he wants to see or earn any type of money for the use or likeness of his characters. He basically has no choice but to sit back and shut up or take a hike. It's sad because Stan Lee should have complete control over the entire movie or character use. Unfortunately Stan has hardly any say about the big screen when it comes to his characters. It's really sad. If anyone deserves anything it would be him. He is a major childhood influence on me. I have a couple of books he signed for me. He is a great guy.

[Alberto Malnati]

GOSH! didn't see it yet...but already the first one was so a bad experience!
how they can take a genial character as doom and make him just a sort of wall street manager...? why Stan Lee didn't follow the production as for the spider man's movies?
incredible missed occasion to make a good movie
ciao
Al

[Earth 2 Chris]

Y'know.... if the audience can buy a bald chrome guy in his underwear with a surfboard; a giant dude with a tuning fork on his head might not be too tough to accept.....

Well, see they ditched the underwear, like most modern versions of the Surfer in comics. The underwear would have blown it for everyone.

Chris

[ctc]

>Kirby's Galactus design kicked butt on the drawn, inked comic page. But a big dude with a tuning fork helmet would have had the non-comic readers rolling in the aisle.

Y'know.... if the audience can buy a bald chrome guy in his underwear with a surfboard; a giant dude with a tuning fork on his head might not be too tough to accept.....

Don C.

[Earth 2 Chris]

For anyone who doesn't think Galactus would not have translated well on the big screen this is from Ultimate Alliance game Looks like he translates well to me I'm sure with better designers and a little effort they would have pulled it off sorry not having a physical Galactus was a cop out!

Galactus does indeed look cool here, but I'm with Joe in thinking what works on a vid game doesn't necessarily translate to the big screen. The look of Galactus may have worked, but him physically interacting with the Surfer and the FF would not have worked for the public like the giant cloud. With recent events like the tsunami and Katrina, an unstoppable, unreachable force of nature just has more impact than a giant dude in purple.

Chris

[Boris71]

I think that the screen writter watched some of the older marvel action hour fantastic four cartoons because doom stole the surfers powers by stealing his board and the surfer lost his galactic glaze, it wasn't till the latter FF cartoons that the watcher gave them the ultimate nullifer, and in the Surfer cartoon he often had his powers drained

In a comic he can be invincable but in a 90min movie or 12 episode cartoon series he has to be vunerable, and I think due to the long run of comics and a movie you have to mix elements from diffrent surfer stories to get a good coverage as some people like the classic some the more modern versions.

The movie is just trying to appeal to a wide audience and I think people need to be a little less harsh on stuff just because it didn't live up to what they wanted/expected it to be.

I wanted to see nova, galactus, and the surfer banished to earth, and it would have been easy to introduce the superskrull as a creature sent to stop galactus and stole the FFs powers. But to me I was entertained for 90 mins and me and my GF loved every minuite of it yesterday, we are thinking of taking the kids to see it and I will be more than happy to see it a second time infact if I had time and another £10 on me I would have gone to see the 12:30 show that was just starting.

I think non comic fans will enjoy this more than spider-man X-men or daredevil and they are a massive part of the audience, and when they do a good adaptaion of a comic character like manthin it ends up straight to dvd the same as the old doctor strange movie did.

[kingdom warrior]

Hey Joe I understand what you mean...It's just me sorry don't mean to get at anyones goat

[JDeRouen]

He does look good, but there is still a big difference between seeing something on a video game and on a movie screen. Regardless, like I said, the cloud worked for me.

[kingdom warrior]

For anyone who doesn't think Galactus would not have translated well on the big screen this is from Ultimate Alliance game Looks like he translates well to me I'm sure with better designers and a little effort they would have pulled it off sorry not having a physical Galactus was a cop out!

[JDeRouen]

I REALLY liked this movie. I liked it better than Spider-Man 3. There. I said it.

You actually took the words right out of my mouth. But, thankfully, I have more words where those came from.

We (my wife, my son, and I) just got back from seeing Fantastic Four II and really enjoyed it. Sure, there were some silly bits - Surfer's power being tied into his board, for one - but I can live with them.

Galactus as a cloud sound silly in print, but it worked well enough on screen. It made him kind of unknowable, untouchable, a mysterious being that didn't want nor need to interact with humanity, and it worked for me. (Though I half-expected to see a vague outline of his face in the cloud as Surfer flew into it - not sure if I'm happy or disappointed that the face wasn't there.)

At just 89 minutes long, it left me wanting more. I can't say the same thing about Spider-Man 3. And I'd rather walk out of the theater wanting more than wishing I could get back the last two and a half hours of my life.

Joe

[Bizarro Amy]

I'm not a big enough FF fan to get really angry about this movie, so I will still probably go see it at the cheap theater. I thought the idea of the fusing their powers sounded kind of cool. But what ticked me off is that they showed it in the commercials. I understand that they have to show some clips to get people interested, but not one that is such a major plot point! I actually started reading the occasional FF story just because I think Doctor Doom is cool. The movie version is just plain crap. I can deal with the guy they chose to play him, he pulls off good-looking and vain off well enough, but I always picture him with an accent. And in the stories I read, Doom referred to himself in the 3rd person from time to time, which I thought was fun. What happened to that? And I've also heard that in this movie he rarely wears his mask and cloak. That pretty much kills it for me.