B Vs S Ultimate Edition Trailer

[MIB41]

As far as Batman knowing who Superman is, c'mon. He's the world's greatest detective, and Lois Lane had it figured out in MoS, too.

But he apparently missed that mind blowing part about his mother's...name. (;

[Nostalgiabuff]

if I am not mistaken, in the nineties when they did the first batman meets Superman for the modern era, Bruce had figured out who Superman was, so that is nothing new

[thunderbolt]

As far as Batman knowing who Superman is, c'mon. He's the world's greatest detective, and Lois Lane had it figured out in MoS, too.

[Mr.Marion]

This movie has it's flaws but it isn't as bad as the criticism suggests. The cuts are alittle choppy and Batman is very much the Frank Miller Dark Knight return version. I could be wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if Jesse Eisenberg was intended to play the Riddler instead of Lex.

There is a a Danger Diabolik style reference The Batcave resembles Diabolik's hindout about an Hour in.

But if you are on the fence about seeing it I'd say give it a shot.

[hedrap]

Snyder's biggest problem is he doesn't care about the batsuit's potential as a plot device, only its look.

Dude is dressed as a bat with giant bat ears. He's going to fight Superman. Wouldn't he want every possible advantage, like amplified hearing, so he knew when Supes was coming?

Super-hearing, Bat sonar, Lex Tech...it opens up so many possibilities to explain the inane story logic.

I mean, how is Lex not viewing the fight via drone? How does he not talk to Superman, ala Reeves/Hackman, which is then overheard by Batman and explains "Martha".

I think it all comes back to that scene -is it in the Ultimate edition? -where Superman hears all the cities problems and tries to block it out. That's a bad foundation to build on.

[Earth 2 Chris]

I was joking with Andrew that Batman now holds support group meetings for "The Sons of Martha". If you're Mom ain't a Martha, you're out!!!

Chris

[libby 1957dog]

and another one lol

[libby 1957dog]

heres another one for you Tom lol

[MIB41]

^^^ LOL! Love it.

[libby 1957dog]

not sure if these are old news or new at sdcc this weekend ,but sorta funny all the same ,hope they are officially licenced and warners adds their cut to the movies total take lol :yess:
win win :lol

[MIB41]

Rented and just finished watching the Ultimate edition which is, for me, the only edition I have seen. Never saw it in the theaters so I can't speak to the differences. The first fifteen or twenty minutes setup what could have been a compelling story. But then that first twenty lead into an hour, then ninety minutes. By that point, I'm thinking to myself, " Does Snyder know this is suppose to be a superhero film?" The set up and staging for what I guess is suppose to be the 'big payoff' in the final chapter becomes so overstated and disjointed, by the time they get to the "Martha" scene I literally laughed out loud. That had to be the most impossible leap of logic ever perpetrated on the public. I've seen better stretches of reasoning on the Superfriends. Hell, I'm not sure even Schumacher would have touched that one. I mean, I've had to endure over two hours of watching Wayne have nonstop nightmares and hallucinations about the threat of Superman (some suggesting he will take over the world with his own military) and this troubled life-long psychosis and paranoia is suddenly cured by the utterance of "Martha"? REALLY? Superman hasn't done anything to demonstrate at that moment that he is anything other than what Batman sees him to be, and because his mother's name is Martha Batman just drops all his notions and essentially thinks, "Weeeeeell. I guess he can't be all that bad if his mamma's name is Martha. He's my bro now. Think I'll devote the next chapter of my life fighting for him and his mother!" I couldn't take another five minutes of this movie serious after that scene.

As a Snyder film it did not surprise me. It was predictably depressing, drenched in social commentary and subplots that killed the pacing, plus all the characters gain access to highly private information and know one another's motivations without the slightest rationale as to how they would obtain it. It almost had a bit of '66 camp running through the script the way everyone seem to be an open book to one another. So to conclude, it had some interesting ideas for a story, but once again Snyder couldn't help himself. We had to take his grand tour of their damaged psyches and unrelenting plot holes that throw us from moment to moment without the slightest reason why. If this was suppose to be the 'better' version, I don't even want to know how badly it was botched in the theatrical cut.

[Earth 2 Chris]

Bruce dedicating his life to making it up to his dead bro was a little much too. If they had a previous friendship, fell out, then buried the hatchet, that may have worked. It's just far too pat.

Chris

[Hector]

personally i don't get the hate over the martha scene, to me its about batman realizing he's not that much different than superman and how far he's fallen from his original intent . And its batmans chance to do what he couldn't for his own mother. Redemption to some extent

I'm willing to let that whole Martha fiasco slide...

But within minutes of Batman almost impaling Supes to death (with the kryptonite spear)...and right after rescuing Martha...he tells her, "I'm a friend of his" (I'm paraphrasing here)...sorry, but that was unintentional comedy at its best, lol...

[Earth 2 Chris]

personally i don't get the hate over the martha scene, to me its about batman realizing he's not that much different than superman and how far he's fallen from his original intent . And its batmans chance to do what he couldn't for his own mother. Redemption to some extent

I can see all of that, and I believe it COULD have worked, but it was just too quick. Too much of a light switch for most folks to buy.

Chris

[mego maniac mark]

I'm have been on record here for loving the movie. It's not
Perfect by any means. The ultimate edition actually helps fill in quite a few gaps. I am enjoying the extra footage, especially Lois' investigations. I'm 2/ 3 through it now , we'll see how the third act may, or may not be helped .