THE FLASH; Season 2 Finale *Spoilers*

[johnnystorm]

Wish they would have brought Jay in sooner and had him help fight Zoom. Flashes in action are ALWAYS better than watching Joe's pouty face and Iris pose. I was rooting for Zoom to clean house.
Still Shipp in the costume rocked!

Now as for next season...FLASHPOINT? Really. I wish we'd just get through with this death of his mom stuff. Plenty of other directions to go, but they just keep going backwards.

[Hector]

I suppose...but still sort of creepy...just a tad, lol...

[knight errant00]

^^ People keep saying this, and I sort of get it, but how old were Barry and Iris when Joe took in Barry? 8? 9? By that age, you're not seeing adopted kids necessarily as siblings, but sorta more like kids you grew up with (yeah, in the same house). I see Barry's relationship with Iris as something along the lines of the girl he's lived next door to since third grade and always had a crush on.

Now, if they'd been together since like age 2 or 3 . . . that would be more unsettling, since they would basically know each other only as sibs.

[Hector]

Nice finale...

Ok, I apologize, but a couple of Captain Bringdown comments...

Star Labs lack of security still bugs the heck outta me...now it was Wally's turn to nonchalantly just dropped by, lol...

Yeah, I know, he was already aware of Barry being the Flash...but boy...they sure gave him the address and key super quick...

...and Barry/Iris kissing, borderline incestuous...creepy...

[LonnieFisher]

Is Supergirl from Earth 3, maybe?

[monitor_ep]

As far as I can figure the Time Wraiths are this version of the Black Flash.

[Earth 2 Chris]

Now I gotta catch up on LOT! I had no idea! And I really didn't mind the spoilers. I knew I was reading them.

Chris

[UnderdogDJLSW]

I was feeling like a little kid reading comics when watching this last night.



Spoilers
Did anyone get a "blackest night" vibe off of how zoom looked when the time wraiths took him away?

[knight errant00]

...so trying to follow the Family Tree Logic...minus the Alternate Realities...does that make Jay Garrick Flash's Great-Great-GrandFather and/or Great-Uncle??? ...since Garrick was Flash's Father's Mother's Maiden Name?

I was thinking something more like E3 Jay maybe lost his dad before he was born and his mother named him with her family name, so he'd still be the equivalent of Barry's father.

[knight errant00]

SPOILERS




He might be from Earth 3, like Jay?

I thought the same thing last night -- maybe Rex's ship was damaged because it's been hopping not just time, but realities?

[WannabeMego]

...so trying to follow the Family Tree Logic...minus the Alternate Realities...does that make Jay Garrick Flash's Great-Great-GrandFather and/or Great-Uncle??? ...since Garrick was Flash's Father's Mother's Maiden Name?

[madmarva]

Always good to see a general fan consensus work out and pretty clever to build an entire plot-point to get tha reveal. Most shows would have just dumped Shipp in the costume and ran him out surfing sweeps.

So...JSA is sorta inevitable now. Don't see why they can't use Alan Scott.

Makes me wonder how much of this is driven by Snyder's refusal to inter-connect with CW.

SPOILERS





It's interesting a different and younger JSA member Hourman (Rex Tyler) was introduced in the finale of Legends and he actually said he was a member of the JSA. He might be from Earth 3, like Jay?

[knight errant00]

^^ Maybe my fan impulses are blinding me to it, but I think they were too worried about dropping a teaser for next season and getting to the episode's tag.

They already had a split dilemma plot device -- Zoom has to be kept busy while someone else risked death to stop the machine -- and Jay could have easily handled the part time-remnant Barry did, surviving it to everyone's shock because he knows some Flash trick ("Well sure, that would disintegrate you -- if you didn't phase in and out of time as you run. There's a few tricks you pick up when you've been the Flash as long as I have, Slugger.") Win for Barry outracing Zoom and taking him down, win for Jay saving his Earth, win for us getting to see them in action together.

[Earth 2 Chris]

^^ Oh, I've little doubt we'll see it eventually. But it had become clear some time ago the man in the iron mask was the real Jay and would turn out to be Shipp, and I really wanted to see the team-up -- hell, after Henry was killed, I was expecting Jay to go all paternal with Barry ("Y'know something, kid, you remind me of my son . . . ") and see two great Flashes take down Zoom. Like I said, great ep, but it just left me . . . unfulfilled . . . as to what I think they could have done with minimal tinkering to just the story they had there.

Yeah, that would have been nice to see, but I think the creators wanted Barry to win the day on his own. They had written him as such a dullard in many of the episodes this season, just to have him lose over and over and raise the stakes higher and higher. I think he needed to take the victory lap himself, even though he didn't feel too victorious at the end.

Chris

[hedrap]

Always good to see a general fan consensus work out and pretty clever to build an entire plot-point to get tha reveal. Most shows would have just dumped Shipp in the costume and ran him out surfing sweeps.

So...JSA is sorta inevitable now. Don't see why they can't use Alan Scott.

Makes me wonder how much of this is driven by Snyder's refusal to inter-connect with CW.