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  • emeraldknight47
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    Definitely in agreement that, after multiple viewings, MOS is a fitting entry into the Superman mythology (with a few minor quibbles I have discussed elsewhere on these boards). Is is a "perfect" Superman movie? By no means; it casts Superman into a much darker place than the character was ever meant to inhabit. Did it deserve better than 56% on RT? IMHO, yes, it does, but movies critics have a tendency to have a lack of independent thought, especially when it comes to superhero movies. One critic may sing a movie's praises only to be drowned out by a herd of "sheep" who are finding it easier to follow the path of least resistance and add to the cacophony of naysayers and those unwilling to look past previous efforts.

    Is MOS, as Hector says, better than A:AoU? I'd would likely have to say yes simply due to the fact that Whedon, while his focus was laser sharp on the first Avengers movie, sadly found his vision muddled and confused in AoU while an actor who should have delivered an Ultron who was easily as chilling and menacing as any super villain can be, for some reason, whether it be script or interpretation or even direction, made that villain far too unimposing and, therefore, impotent as a threat.

    I've only seen IM3 once, so I can't really say too much about it (it usually requires at least three or four viewings before stuff really starts to gel in my head) other than the fact that for a movie called IRON MAN, we saw very little OF Iron Man and a LOT of RDJ's ego being stroked. I would therefore have to agree with Hector again that MOS was, indeed, better than Man of Iron III.
    Last edited by emeraldknight47; Mar 13, '16, 12:10 PM.

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  • Hector
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    Man of Steel is a quadrillion times better than both Avengers 2 and Iron Man 3...add a plus one to that quadrillion.

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  • Mr.Marion
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    did they leave out a decimal? Is it supposed to read 5.6%? How is this rubbish over 50%

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  • hedrap
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    WB Marketing screwedy uppy and revealed Jenna Malone was Babara Gordon. Not Batgirl, but Babs.

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  • hedrap
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    Early critic buzz is positive. That matters as it's not fanboy reddit rants.

    Jena Malone's "Is she Carrie Kelly or Babs Gordon" scenes have been cut and moved to Blu-Ray...specifically the R-Rated version. I see that implying she's Oracle.

    Flash interacts with Bats in BvS....

    ...But Green Lantern is not in BvS....or Justice League......and possibly the Justice League Sequel!!!

    Here's the money quote: Emphasis mine.

    "[Green Lantern] is an incredible character. He's actually multiple incredible characters. There's real opportunity there. We didn't do a great job on that first Green Lantern movie. This is a character who deserves to be treated in the same way that Batman and Superman and Wonder Woman are being treated now, which is with great reverence. I guess I can say to the Green Lantern fans: if they can be patient with us, I think they'll be really happy."
    This, IMO, means they have their GL but are waiting out the actors other commitments. And that would be The Rock, whose Black Adam gig is nowhere on his schedule for the next solid year. That means we're crossing a decade with Rock tied to Adam, and that should expire his contractual obligation. Those deals are not en perpetuity and this would also explain why Rock was saying a year ago, that we would probably see the Shazam movie before 2019. The producers most likely wanted to bumrush production by 2017 so he would have to honor the contract, thereby getting a 2018 release date. But his schedule is booked for the next year.

    But WB has never wanted him in such a secondary role, so the only way they were going to finance is if they got another huge star attached to Shazam, and they haven't been able to. WB probably tried to shift/buyout his Black Adam contract, but since the production was originally set up at New Line, (who still exists even post-WB merger), all contractual obligations are valid. I know that from the Iron Man fiasco and what Avi Arad had to pull to get the rights away, as WB never intended to finance it which kept it shelved, aka "in development". Producers are independent players not employees, so they're not inclined to simply hand over property for the good of the company. When you've got one of the last actual stars who can turn out an audience under contract, and a cheap contract compared to his current rates, it's gold. The probably wanted producer credits on JLA, which is never going to happen as that splits the percentages even more.

    But now, WB can have a verbal agreement in place and wait it out. To not include GL in the first JLA is risking fanboy wrath, but if they're doing it because they can fill the role with a real showstopper, than all will be forgiven. Also factor in how the next GL film is about the Corps and I can see Rock playing Stewart to a Guy Gardner.

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  • emeraldknight47
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    That Kimmel clip is pretty funny and just furthers the "galactically stupid" title that Lois Lane was given in "Lois and Clark." Fingers crossed that the movie can be at least that entertaining.

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  • Marvelmania
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    Originally posted by thunderbolt
    deleted scene from the movie
    Funniest thing I've seen in a long time!

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  • JRT!
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    Batman and Robin killed the franchise and the last superhero run of movies until the X-Men movie? I still maintain Blade as being the turnaround for superhero movies.

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  • thunderbolt
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    deleted scene from the movie

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  • Hector
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  • MIB41
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    Originally posted by Hector
    Doomsday is not going to humble him, Batman is...as he just shot a little kryptonite bullet at him (caught by Supes, but it's all part of Bat's plan)...the beginning of the end for Supes.
    But first Deadpool is going to beat him. Later this week he passes Man of Steel at the box office. Then on to Iron Man 2, Iron Man, and Guardians around the corner. Impressive.

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  • Hector
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    Wrong thread.....................
    Last edited by Hector; Feb 29, '16, 6:40 PM.

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  • thunderbolt
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    ^^ The Batman always has a plan.

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  • Hector
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    Originally posted by MIB41
    Even more new footage. Is it just me or does it seem ludicrous that after Superman hit Batman hard enough to go through a building (literally), he would say, " If I wanted it, you would be dead already" ? Completely un-Superman like. So arrogant too. Doomsday please... humble this Kryptonian.

    http://www.superherohype.com/news/36...f-justice-clip
    Doomsday is not going to humble him, Batman is...as he just shot a little kryptonite bullet at him (caught by Supes, but it's all part of Bat's plan)...the beginning of the end for Supes.

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  • Earth 2 Chris
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    One thing I'm liking about the promotional blitz for this, is there does seem to be some degree of fun, and a touch of lightness to the film. This is what these DC films REALLY need. I'm less apprehensive about the actual film now. Still not keen on the promotional arm trying to ride every bandwagon they can find, but I have hope this will be less morose than MoS.

    Chris

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