Marvel: Bruce Banner no longer the Hulk...

[enyawd72]

And this is exactly why I'm selling off my Marvel collection. They've taken something I've loved my whole life and just ruined it.

[MIB41]

I think true diversification is when you bring in new characters from different backgrounds. Role playing an established part, in my mind, is playing to the stereotype and is, in fact, deferring to the original by essentially saying you're not "relevant" unless you fit into this mold. As a white man, I am not offended by these changes so much as left with a sense that the cultures they "anoint" should be. The move essentially says you're not good enough to stand as your own entity which I don't like or support. All people count. All cultures count. And all backgrounds count. If being a hero is now just about WHO wears the costume, then comics have ceased to understand the meaning behind these characters or why people have followed them for decades.

And Hedrap makes a great point. If these companies are going to concede they're just catering to special interest big mouths, that don't even support the changes, then why do it at all? It's all a power play and at some point the people who write these stories, whom we entrust to protect the integrity of these characters, should turn in their keys if an outside organization can dictate the terms. Those are not people I want protecting the mantle, because their not there to defend a standard, so much as find a new way to tarnish it. The industry has allowed too many spineless weasels to take positions of authority who are too easily slapped down by people who shouldn't have a voice in the process since they're not there to support it.

[emeraldknight47]

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Very well said!!

[TrekStar]

With all these Marvel character changes, doesn't Stan Lee have a say in the matter? or is he more on the sidelines
these days? or is somebody else him now?

[daz71]

With all these Marvel character changes, doesn't Stan Lee have a say in the matter? or is he more on the sidelines
these days? or is somebody else him now?

haha love it i used to go to a book stall when i was a kid that sold new comics and the owner looked like stan lee i think he's him now.

[Nostalgiabuff]

I don't think Stan Lee has any creative control over anything. he is more of the public front man for marvel but that is if

[WannabeMego]

I think true diversification is when you bring in new characters from different backgrounds. Role playing an established part, in my mind, is playing to the stereotype and is, in fact, deferring to the original by essentially saying you're not "relevant" unless you fit into this mold. As a white man, I am not offended by these changes so much as left with a sense that the cultures they "anoint" should be. The move essentially says you're not good enough to stand as your own entity which I don't like or support. All people count. All cultures count. And all backgrounds count. If being a hero is now just about WHO wears the costume, then comics have ceased to understand the meaning behind these characters or why people have followed them for decades.

And Hedrap makes a great point. If these companies are going to concede they're just catering to special interest big mouths, that don't even support the changes, then why do it at all? It's all a power play and at some point the people who write these stories, whom we entrust to protect the integrity of these characters, should turn in their keys if an outside organization can dictate the terms. Those are not people I want protecting the mantle, because their not there to defend a standard, so much as find a new way to tarnish it. The industry has allowed too many spineless weasels to take positions of authority who are too easily slapped down by people who shouldn't have a voice in the process since they're not there to support it.

Something I've been trying to convey/discuss for years now.

I've tried to have an intelligent and respectful conversation about this with some folks but it almost ALWAYS ends up calling me something I am not and I end the conversation there because it is pointless to go on any further.

I also try to look at it from the 'Creator' aspect/side and compare it to Modern Literature...it's like asking J.K. Rowling to change Harry Potter or Suzanne Collins to change Katniss Everdeen.

Anyway...Love your Response...Respectfully put (IMHO).