Ha ha. Marvel hates you!

[The Toyroom]

Apparrently DC thinks Image is worth something...or they wouldn't have bough the Company.

DC didn't buy Image....Image still exists today. DC bought Jim Lee's company Wildstorm, which was one of the many studios that made up Image. Basically, Jim Lee "sold out" his dream to the fat cats who were holding him back in the first place.

[The Bat]

I think you forget the reason these Artist & Writers formed Image. Marvel was making Money off these Guys BIG Time...and not sharing in the rewards. They had no ownership over new Characters they created. Let's not forget Marvel has a history of shafting their own People(ask Stan Lee).

Apparrently DC thinks Image is worth something...or they wouldn't have bough the Company.

[samurainoir]

It was in fact Bob Harras that was running the X-Men kingdom back then during the Jim Lee years.

I believe Defalco was still EIC during the Clone Saga wasn't he? Or was this during the short-lived 5 Editorial Kingdoms which culminated in Bob Harras taking the Big Chair.

[thunderbolt]

Quesedilla wasn't editor then, he was artist on X-Factor at the time. It was probably Bob Harras that sided with the "artist" hack Jim Lee. Then Lee went all prima donna and left Marvel to go play with his Image goons. And the world of comics is oh so much better for having Image form.

[The Bat]

The Clone thing is a What if? sort of story, giving DeFalco a chance to tell the story the way he intended it without the editorial monkeying that went on with it. Sorta like Claremont's XMen book telling the story he would have done had he not been run off the book by that dickhead Jim Lee and the editor that took the artist's side instead of the writer that had been on the book for years.

If you're reffereing to the then "Editor in Chief" Joe Quesada...then we agree on something...I HATE Quesada! He's the Idiot the gave Morrison(with Quitely)free reign on the X-Men, for the worst X-Men run EVER! It has the distinction of being the ONLY time I've ever cancelled the X-Men in 30something years of buying the Book.

[60'schild]

Come on in! The water's fine!

Chris

Agreed. In MY world, Kirby, Romita and Ditko have NEVER been eclipsed ... and the ONLY "Lee" I recognize is Stan!

Excelsior!!

[ctc]

>I have officially stopped reading new comics, and am now firmly residing in the past, where comics are so much better.....

I think the trick is to read ACTUAL new comics.... The Big Two and a Half aren't really new. There's a lot of good stuff out there.

Don C.

[Earth 2 Chris]

I have officially stopped reading new comics, and am now firmly residing in the past, where comics are so much better.....

Come on in! The water's fine!

Chris

[Gorn Captain]

I have officially stopped reading new comics, and am now firmly residing in the past, where comics are so much better.....

[Riffster]

in the "Ha Ha Marvel hates you vein" how about running old man logan in the wolverine book in which i have a subscription, only to end it in a special one shot. Thanks marvel

[samurainoir]

I am really curious about DeFalco's "Golden Handcuffs" with Marvel. He is really the only example that I can think of as a "company man" in creative/editorial that has really paid off for him in the long run. Regimes come and go, owners come and go, and it seems DeFalco ALWAYS has some kind of steady work at Marvel no matter what going on well over three decades. Spidergirl kept chugging along despite low sales, he's been given gigs on mass market books based on Marvel Properties, now another shot at the clone saga.

Who else besides Stan ever had this (and even he kind of got pushed off the ledge a few years ago)? Roy Thomas, Marv Wolfman, Jim Shooter, Bob Harris, Bill Jemas all moved on. Even Archie Goodwin eventually went to DC. When Joe Q eventually steps down at Marvel, I'm certain he wouldn't limit himself with Marvel properties given his wide and varied career prior. He's always expressed a bit of regret about not being able to fully exploit his creator owned properties like Painkiller Jane or Ash or even just getting back to the drawing board in general.

[jds1911a1]

Someone at marvel must have liked FINAL CRISIS

[VintageMike]

It's only a six issiue mini and it's won't be in continuity. No big deal here, no one, evenSpidey die hards (which inlcude me) has to buy it to keep up. The only thing they should have done to make it more palatble was make it an actual "What If?" mini-series. Also note the last line of the article. That could be the real driving force behind this.

[thunderbolt]

The Clone thing is a What if? sort of story, giving DeFalco a chance to tell the story the way he intended it without the editorial monkeying that went on with it. Sorta like Claremont's XMen book telling the story he would have done had he not been run off the book by that dickhead Jim Lee and the editor that took the artist's side instead of the writer that had been on the book for years.

[clemso]

I stopped reading Marvel comics ages ago, the clone saga was probably one of the last stories that I read.