Frank Miller vs Todd McFarlane

[The Bat]

I still like Frank Miller for His early works...DareDevil, TDKR, and Batman:Year One.

I also like Sin City.

[kingdom warrior]

Yes, Romita Sr. is the standard, and I love his artwork. But McFarlane's MJ is hubba hubba

LOL!!!! are you having thoughts of Peter's wife...lol! Oh wait never mind that never happened....

[kingdom warrior]

you forgot Ghost Rider's schtick, too.

Hahah! Forgot about that one!

[thunderbolt]

Draw Black spiderman add Red cape + Punishers arsenal and Batman's attitude = Spawn....

you forgot Ghost Rider's schtick, too.

[Earth 2 Chris]

McFarlane's Spidey was a great shot in the arm. David Micheline's scripts were good too. Didn't care much for Todd's solo "Spider-Man" title. He was ahead of his time, having a one issue tale stretched out over 6.

Chris

[Megospidey]

I hate McFarlane. His squggly-insect looking Spiderman art ia horrible.

Now John, it's not horrible. Different for sure - especially from Romita Sr., the Spiderman artist-god. But not horrible.

If it had been horrible, he would never have gotten the job as Spiderman artist in the first place.

I love Romita, and he will always be tops (very closely follows Ditko) when it comes to Spider-man art. Andru was great too...

McFarlane came along in '87 when I was 20 years old and reading Spider-man as an adult. He drew spidey in poses/shots I had never seen before. And do not forget...he gave us Venom - the BEST spidey villain other than Green Goblin.

[Megospidey]

Romita sr. for me is the Ultimate Mary Jane artist...

Yes, Romita Sr. is the standard, and I love his artwork. But McFarlane's MJ is hubba hubba

[Brue]

Aren't they the same person?

[kingdom warrior]

I completely disagree...I have always thought he drew one of the BEST Mary Jane Watsons. She never looked so good IMO.

I do agree with you that McFarlane was sloppy as an artist at times. Especially looking back on it.

But at the time, when I was reading Spiderman in the late 80's, early 90's...McFarlane was so different from anything I had seen...I was mesmerized.

Yes true. McFarlane captured many people's attention at the time because no one drew Spiderman like him at the time. He drew his inspiration from Ditko's Spiderman.Using Blacks in the costume. Plus he drew Spidey doing poses that no one had ever imagined him to do and again his layouts were different.

Romita sr. for me is the Ultimate Mary Jane artist...

[kingdom warrior]

I see what you're saying now - I thought you meant characterization. Everybody knows Mcfarlane ripped off Cat Damon's Wrathdemon for Spawn's look:-)

LOL!!!!!! yeah man cat should beat him down

[EMCE Hammer]

Draw Black spiderman add Red cape + Punishers arsenal and Batman's attitude = Spawn....

I see what you're saying now - I thought you meant characterization. Everybody knows Mcfarlane ripped off Cat Damon's Wrathdemon for Spawn's look:-)

[kingdom warrior]

Spawn = Spider-man with a cape? Seriously?

They've both done things I love, and things I hate. Miller runs about 3-to-1 in the "things I hate" category. I can hide from McFarlane; Miller is everywhere.

Draw Black spiderman add Red cape + Punishers arsenal and Batman's attitude = Spawn....

[BlackKnight]

I hate McFarlane. His squggly-insect looking Spiderman art ia horrible.

& Mr. 1971's Point of View,.. or lack there of. Weird.

[BlackKnight]

Spawn was actually created using Elements of his most favorite characters he drew in the comics,.. as far as the look Goes. Spider-man, Batman & Punisher.

[EMCE Hammer]

None


I like Miller when he does his own thing. Sin City,300,Ronin, and I liked his run on Daredevil. Batman the Dark knight was ground breaking at the time. But what he's done of late with Batman shows sign of a ego gone mad. He should be slapped with a wet fish for messing with the spirit.

As for Todd, he was an overhyped artist. Although his layouts were groundbreaking his art is laughably bad. Often not knowing where muscles went and overinked the pages to hide the bad art often getting muddy looking prints.......he drew spidey in wild poses but everything else fell apart.

He was part of the Image movement and created fan favorite Spawn.....basically Spiderman with a cape. It's also because of his style that we got Rob Liefield and all the clones who tried to mimic McFarlane and failed. I'll give him credit for creating his toyline that really changed the toy industry. proving you didn't need an animated series to sell toys......oh to add he draws one of the worst Mary Jane Watsons


In the end their Egos win........

Spawn = Spider-man with a cape? Seriously?

They've both done things I love, and things I hate. Miller runs about 3-to-1 in the "things I hate" category. I can hide from McFarlane; Miller is everywhere.