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  • ctc
    Fear the monkeybat!
    • Aug 16, 2001
    • 11183

    #16
    >It sounds like you were using polyester resin.

    Yup! It's tough to use right. I've used it for a few things, and you usually have to jack up the catalyst ratio; especially for a casting that's not exposed to the air while hardening.

    >I've since switched over to Polytek's Easyflo 60

    That's what I use! Works well, easy to custom, takes paint good too. Straight 1/1 mix, hardens in a few minutes. (Depending on how big a part you're making.)

    Don C.

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    • mazinz
      Persistent Member
      • Jul 2, 2007
      • 2249

      #17
      Thank you all for the information. I have a few things to research. Had I any idea that the Castin would create such horrible fumes I would have done this outside.

      I also was told by my garbage company to fill it with cat litter and let it dry (then they will take it). Likewise a car repair place by me said I can just dump it in their waste bin as they have other similar material which they have a process for handling (when it comes to that dumpster)

      As for the mold, some of you should really look into Zubber. Mold is fine with no damage and the resin just "gooped" on out. Virtually all of it is out of the mold now with the exception of some very thin layer on the mold surface. I have it now upside down to drain out as much as possible outside in the freezing air
      "What motivated him to throw a puppy at the Hells Angels is currently unclear,"

      Starroid Raiders Dagon wrote "No Dime Store Monster left behind"

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      • SeattleEd
        SynthoRes Transmigrator
        • Oct 24, 2007
        • 4351

        #18
        I have gained so much respect for you. Taking into consideration as to dumping these toxins.
        Good to know how to get rid of these chemicals.

        That's the reason why I stayed cleared from making molds because of the byproducts that are created that go into the environment.
        If there is a way to dispose properly then I'm all for it.

        Cheers

        Ed

        Originally posted by mazinz
        Thank you all for the information. I have a few things to research. Had I any idea that the Castin would create such horrible fumes I would have done this outside.

        I also was told by my garbage company to fill it with cat litter and let it dry (then they will take it). Likewise a car repair place by me said I can just dump it in their waste bin as they have other similar material which they have a process for handling (when it comes to that dumpster)

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        • ctc
          Fear the monkeybat!
          • Aug 16, 2001
          • 11183

          #19
          >Virtually all of it is out of the mold now with the exception of some very thin layer on the mold surface.

          If you use a new resin (preferably a polyurethane....) and fill the mold it'll stick to the old stuff and help remove it. (It'll ruin the cast though, but it cleans the mold.)

          Don C.

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          • mazinz
            Persistent Member
            • Jul 2, 2007
            • 2249

            #20
            re

            I just came back from disposing of this stuff. I checked the zubber mold and more of the resin dripped out and onto the plastic crate box I use for this stuff outside. Will let it sit out for a few more days. The zubber is hanging in there with no problems
            "What motivated him to throw a puppy at the Hells Angels is currently unclear,"

            Starroid Raiders Dagon wrote "No Dime Store Monster left behind"

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            • thunderbolt
              Hi Ernie!!!
              • Feb 15, 2004
              • 34211

              #21
              the castin' craft mold builder is good, tho. Its a brush on rubber that you build up in layers.
              You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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              • mazinz
                Persistent Member
                • Jul 2, 2007
                • 2249

                #22
                Ok I had to stop at Michaels today for some other material and I noticed on the shelf a small box by Castin called "easy cast: clear casting epoxy". It comes with everything you need and is for projects requiring less than 6 ounces which was perfect for my project (my zubber mold mentioned in the first post). I also took notice of the "low odor" message on the front of the box, and that the resin was in a plastic tube with a screw on cap.

                Figuring on what happened last time, I decided to give it one more try since this seems to be made more to what I need and not the giant gas can like resin I had before.

                this one tells you to mix it as a 1:1 ratio (hardner and resin) and to stir it up for 2 mins and then pour it into a new container with a stir stick and continue stirring it for another minute or so. Not sure why it had me do a double stir, but I was going to follow this to a "T". The only thing I did do was slightly add more hardner than a 1:1 mix.

                After the second mix I added in some blue acrylic paint and poured it into the mold

                I want to mention now that it had literally NO smell at all. I had my fan and window open in case, but really nothing (so that low odor notice was not a bunch of BS)

                though my mold leaked a little it does seem to be hardening now. I will let it sit through for 24 hours or so and give a result tomorrow night

                but this now will provide me with some proof that the nicer resins most of you mentioned in this posting will be worth a look at in the sense of the fumes not killing everything in my house
                "What motivated him to throw a puppy at the Hells Angels is currently unclear,"

                Starroid Raiders Dagon wrote "No Dime Store Monster left behind"

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                • dr_cyclops
                  One eyed, wonder
                  • Dec 17, 2009
                  • 2138

                  #23
                  I'm really glad I read this thread! It has been very helpful.
                  Speaking of toxic fumes, I'd like to add that over cooked to burned SuperSculpy releases some horrible stuff. Use extreme caution and ventilation whenever cooking in the house oven. Common effect, is a grogy tired headache feeling. Other than that, you really don't smell the fumes unless you are on top of them. The scary thing is, even burning in the oven, you don't really smell the fumes. From this, I've learn to use good ventilation even when cooking it correctly.

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                  • Bizarro Amy
                    Formerly known as Del
                    • Dec 12, 2004
                    • 3336

                    #24
                    Originally posted by mazinz
                    Ok I had to stop at Michaels today for some other material and I noticed on the shelf a small box by Castin called "easy cast: clear casting epoxy". It comes with everything you need and is for projects requiring less than 6 ounces which was perfect for my project (my zubber mold mentioned in the first post). I also took notice of the "low odor" message on the front of the box, and that the resin was in a plastic tube with a screw on cap.
                    This is the 1:1 stuff I had mentioned using earlier in this thread. I still prefer Smooth-On, but have gone with this before, simply because I could walk into a store and buy it. Unfortunately, you can't even get it around here anymore.
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                    • mazinz
                      Persistent Member
                      • Jul 2, 2007
                      • 2249

                      #25
                      Well I have to say my resin monster came out ok. The resin at some points seems a little flexible. Perhaps this is the soft resin that I think Don mentioned earlier? Then again, I aadded too much paint and this might have caused it?

                      Either way it worked and I am very pleased that it did not kill everything in the house.

                      The zubber mold has held up very well considering it was outside in the elements for about 3 weeks straight, then taken in the
                      other night and used for this. The resin pealed right off of it. I cannot recommend this stuff enough as a very durable mold maker

                      going to do the dino mold again with much less paint so it gets that kind of translucent effect (resin is clear) and truly seal up the mold with liquid latex or shoe goo
                      "What motivated him to throw a puppy at the Hells Angels is currently unclear,"

                      Starroid Raiders Dagon wrote "No Dime Store Monster left behind"

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                      • ctc
                        Fear the monkeybat!
                        • Aug 16, 2001
                        • 11183

                        #26
                        >I aadded too much paint and this might have caused it?

                        Maybe. Sometimes if the mix is off they'll end up soft; or if the silicone is getting old. If they get real old (they're USUALLY good for a year) they'll leech hardner: the parts will feel oily, and paint won't stick.

                        The soft stuff I used hardens to a flexible, rubber-like material. You can squish the Space Glider helmets with your fingers. (And they pop right back into place! Which I swhy I made them.... most of the ones I'd get were cracked.)

                        Don C.

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                        • mazinz
                          Persistent Member
                          • Jul 2, 2007
                          • 2249

                          #27
                          Originally posted by ctc
                          >I aadded too much paint and this might have caused it?

                          Maybe. Sometimes if the mix is off they'll end up soft; or if the silicone is getting old. If they get real old (they're USUALLY good for a year) they'll leech hardner: the parts will feel oily, and paint won't stick.

                          The soft stuff I used hardens to a flexible, rubber-like material. You can squish the Space Glider helmets with your fingers. (And they pop right back into place! Which I why I made them.... most of the ones I'd get were cracked.)

                          Don C.
                          for the most part the dino is hard but some parts are very slightly "soft" more so pliable would be the better term. If you really wanted to, you could bend this thing but it would go back to it's shape. I did add a LOT of paint. Will know better when I re-do this one again

                          will also have to try liquid latex to seal the mold because the shoo goee pealed right off of it
                          "What motivated him to throw a puppy at the Hells Angels is currently unclear,"

                          Starroid Raiders Dagon wrote "No Dime Store Monster left behind"

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