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AVENGERS: ENDGAME Thoughts and Reviews; The SPOILER Edition
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and Cap killed in First Avenger-because he was a soldier and it was war. Now it is not war and killing is not sanctioned. I think that there is a moral difference that I don't care getting into the semantics of trying to explain that even Thor is subject to. It is whether or not you kill when you are not supposed to.
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But I have never been a fan of Thor continually threatening his brother (step-brother) of mortally killing him. Sure, Loki has done awful things, evil things. But you don’t threaten to kill your siblings. Thor should say, “Loki, if you ever do this again, I’m going to imprison you forever, not kill you”
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I just went back and watched it with my son tonight. I noticed when cap went back to replace the stones he wad Thors hammer, and not his shield which was destroyed in the battle with Thanos, but when he is sitting on the bench he has the pristine shield, and No HAMMER....***?Comment
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JSPOILER!!!
I just went back and watched it with my son tonight. I noticed when cap went back to replace the stones he wad Thors hammer, and not his shield which was destroyed in the battle with Thanos, but when he is sitting on the bench he has the pristine shield, and No HAMMER....***?sigpic Oh then, what's this? Big flashy lighty thing, that's what brought me here! Big flashy lighty things have got me written all over them. Not actually. But give me time. And a crayon.Comment
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^The shield Steve hands to Sam has more pronounced lines in the center of the star, and also has a few little detail lines added to the silver/white ring around it. It has to be a new shield either way, because in the prime timeline, it was destroyed by Thanos, and in the timeline Steve creates when he goes back to Peggy...well, he's either in the ice or using it as a revived Captain America!!!
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^Or he stops being Cap and stuffs it away.
The writers and the Russo's have given conflicting info as to what exactly happened. The writers said he's in the prime as Peggy's husband in Winter Soldier. Russo's said he branched reality and somehow came back to the Prime. I think the Russo's got it right and Steve becomes the Nick Fury of that reality.Comment
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On second viewing, the moment between Hawkeye and Witch lamenting the loss of Widow and Vision...the two characters whose lives were sacrificed on behest of the soul stone. She says "they know" we won, which on the surface is an angels in heaven line. It's a real Wrath of Khan moment.
Except, Gamora came back to life via a transfer in time, and we know two versions of the same person can exist in the same moment thanks to Nebula. We also know Cap was supposed to return all the stones, including the soul stone.
The thing is, the soul stone doesn't have a linear moment in time on Vormir. If it did, Hawkeye/Widow could have stolen it. The stone only manifests after the sacrificed person's soul swaps out. So how does Cap return a stone that doesn't have a moment in time it was stolen/borrowed from? If he went back to that moment and could return it, Widow would be alive.
As the end shows, Cap went back to the forties, which has no connection to the branch-trimming.
It has to mean Cap went back to the 40's as it's the linear moment for the stone as Tesseract. He kills Skull so he and it won't travel to Vormir. This creates a split that stops Cap from being frozen and leaves him to live out his life with Peggy. The stone allows him to do it in natural progression and age with her. When she passes, he then returns to the lake and gives Sam the original shield.
So Cap created a split where Widow is alive as a Russian agent. It's his branch. No Hydra, No Cap. One where he lives a normal life. That branch probably leads to the FF and X-Men.
Don't know if you're right, but it is an interesting and possible explanation.Comment
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I seen Endgame again and I picked up on something this time around.
When Cap is getting ready to return the stones he says his goodbye to Bucky. Bucky says he's going to miss him. Cap is only supposed to be gone for a few seconds so why would Buck say that unless Cap had discussed what he was going to do with Bucky. Bucky wasn't expecting to see Cap again.Better late than never.....Comment
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JSPOILER!!!
I just went back and watched it with my son tonight. I noticed when cap went back to replace the stones he wad Thors hammer, and not his shield which was destroyed in the battle with Thanos, but when he is sitting on the bench he has the pristine shield, and No HAMMER....***?sigpic WANTED: Boxed, Carded and Kresge Carded WGSHComment
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I seen Endgame again and I picked up on something this time around.
When Cap is getting ready to return the stones he says his goodbye to Bucky. Bucky says he's going to miss him. Cap is only supposed to be gone for a few seconds so why would Buck say that unless Cap had discussed what he was going to do with Bucky. Bucky wasn't expecting to see Cap again.PUNY HUMANS!Comment
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