Dark Shadows Wave 2 - CANCELED

[MIB41]

Also, I come on these forums often and am an active participant here. I apologize, but I've never seen anyone ask me a question and me not answer! Oscar and Fembot were delayed by the factory - that's it. They are on the water and are arriving soon. We are easy to contact and are happy to participate in discussions and answer questions - just ask!

Just for the record... See my question here...

http://megomuseum.com/community/showthread.php?85002-Six-Million-Dollar-Man-Oscar-Goldman-amp-Fembot-Action-Figures

Page four here...

http://megomuseum.com/community/showthread.php?83718-Where-to-get-Oscar

I'm a big supporter to this line and buy multiples of every figure. I also donated one to someone on this board as well. When these figures go well past their street date, I typically say nothing. That's the business. But these have been following a similar pattern to Dark Shadows. So with no response, and the constant changes reflecting a similar pattern to this line which just got cancelled, I'm sure you can appreciate the frustration some of us are expressing. You want me to ask? I have been. I'm a consumer that wants to buy your product. If it's factory that's fine. Life goes on. Just periodic updates helps. We're not going anywhere. I love this line and want you to benefit from that love.

[PNGwynne]

My comics shop repeatedly tried to order wave 1 without success.

[BifBangPow! JLabs]

Excellent. Thank you for your business and for your questions (for the record).

Our goal is to ramp up production to release multiple waves per year, but often these aggressive plans are slowed by talent approval, studio approval, sculpting and factory delays. Our plans continue to be optimistic with our current lines all continuing. There will be more Venture Bros, Six Million Dollar Man, Battlestar Galactica, Twilight Zone, Doctor Who, along with Dexter and The BIg Bang Theory. We've got a lot of product coming! So again, thanks for your business.

Just for the record... See my question here...

http://megomuseum.com/community/showthread.php?85002-Six-Million-Dollar-Man-Oscar-Goldman-amp-Fembot-Action-Figures

Page four here...

http://megomuseum.com/community/showthread.php?83718-Where-to-get-Oscar

I'm a big supporter to this line and buy multiples of every figure. I also donated one to someone on this board as well. When these figures go well past their street date, I typically say nothing. That's the business. But these have been following a similar pattern to Dark Shadows. So with no response, and the constant changes reflecting a similar pattern to this line which just got cancelled, I'm sure you can appreciate the frustration some of us are expressing. You want me to ask? I have been. I'm a consumer that wants to buy your product. If it's factory that's fine. Life goes on. Just periodic updates helps. We're not going anywhere. I love this line and want you to benefit from that love.

[MIB41]

Thanks Jason. Sorry for the barking. I'm sure it doesn't help with the frustration you have waiting on it yourself. The unknown makes us all a little cranky. The Dark Shadows cancellation notice today broke the camels back for me. If it helps, just know I will buying plenty of BBP product when it hits the deck...AND promoting it's goodness right here and on Facebook. I'm in your corner. I just punch hard on your shoulder when I get irked.

[Mego-Amigo]

I love your TZ, Doctor Who, SMDM and Galactica figures Jason. I will buy them all. Keep them coming.

[enyawd72]

I would like to comment - not directly about this situation, but about how our company sees this. Prototypes are often free or cost very little. The tooling had not been created yet on these, to my knowledge. The license might also cost very little. So the only factors are the minimum orders imposed by the factories and the pre-order levels. If pre-orders don't meet or come anywhere near minimums, it's just impossible to invest to go to production. So the math is that it would cost tens of thousands of dollars to actually go to production, where the return on that money might only be a few thousand dollars. I don't see how a business can justify this.

I understand where you're coming from...I guess I incorrectly assumed this late in the game the DS series two figures were pretty much tooled and ready to go. That's why communication is key. If Spectre Toys needed more preorders to go into production, they should have gotten the word out early on. Maybe nothing would have changed, but maybe it would have. People didn't know what was going on with the constant delays, which made many reluctant to preorder, thus ensuring the line WOULDN'T continue.

[Chris]

Yes!!!! LABZ wrote "more Dexter".

[Dark Shadow]

Not the least bit surprised, but definitely disappointed.

Had a gut feeling (when I found out the guy behind Spectre is the same guy behind Majestic) that Wave 1 would be the only wave to see the light of day...err...shadows of night. Silly me stayed optimistic though...what is it with me & misplaced optimism when it comes to DS?? I guess I'll never learn .

With all the disappointments, it's not easy being a DS fan. From the cancellation of the original series way back in '71, Night of Dark Shadows, the numerous false starts in syndication, the short-lived revival series, the just out of reach expense of the VHS release in the 90's, the WB resurrection series that never took flight, the years of movie rumours (not to mention the actual movie itself) all the way up through the cancelled products...it's a coaster ride that seems to descend more frequently than it soars.

The bright side is that the entire original series, save one episode, is mine for keeps ...and that is what makes it all worth while!

(Not sure if it's been talked about here but the wood/metal cane prop replica has also been cancelled)

[Mego-Amigo]

I feel your disappointment. I am a big DS fan as well and like you had a feeling series 2 would never see the light of day. After all the lame cancellations of a lot of great Mego style figures over the last couple of years ( Retro Action, ST Vina and Chapel, EMCE POTA, some TZ characters and now DS ) I was beginning to get real discouraged and lose hope. The anouncement of all the great stuff from Figures has given me new hope but I have learned not to get too excited until I actually see a genuine release from a company these days. I have seen too many awesome prototypes over the last couple of years only to hear later..." Sorry... they are cancelled. " or " Sorry... but we won't be producing these after all. " or " Sorry... but there is just not enough support to continue this line. "

[jonwes]

I must admit, the only figure I was looking forward to was Barnabas. I had planned to snatch him up. But I'm sad for everyone really looking forward to these.

[Artistix]

**sigh**

Not terribly shocked. But sad.

Guess I'd better find a new avatar.

[MIB41]

And thus begins my long unintended task to find a Barnabus figure and not lose my arse too badly in the process. I seldom ever see him on Ebay, because I'm confident the people who bought him actually wanted him. And the people selling him want some crazy money. Oh well. Typically if it's a newly licensed item in Mego scale I'll buy it early on if I like it and believe the volumes will be limited. I became more interested in Dark Shadows after this figure went off the market, which is why I was hopeful for a second production run of this figure. It was odd that Barnabus was already pretty much off the market when the movie came out. I'm not sure, but I bet Spectre Toys would have garnered better numbers had they been able to take pre-orders months before the movie came out, which could have spiked interest. Hindsight is always 20/20. Here was an interesting article showing the interest in the line long before the movie came out. The frustration in the availability of Barnabus was already there.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=14&ved=0CEoQFjADOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.collinsporthistoricalsociety.com%2F2012%2F02%2Fspectre-toys-giveth-and-spectre-toys.html&ei=midxUYL-KtG24AOmpoGACw&usg=AFQjCNE1D_h6Byx-PnRelNuNUT1_pAmdVg&bvm=bv.45373924,d.dmg&cad=rja

[HumanWolfman]

I have seen Barnabas pop up for $100-$150 on ebay. I wish I had a few of them. Bought 2 and I opened 1 of them. If you don't have an Angelique, I would get one on EE.

[tllgn]

what a rip!,they have you wait for almost a year,and you pre-buy it ,and just before they come out in a month their cancelled !!that sucks.

[shellhead]

What a drag...