eBay changes

[Bill]

The feedback system is flawed and I rarely bother with it anymore. I give the buyer feedback as soon as payment is received, as long as it's not late, and don't really mind too much if I get no feedback from time to time. I have had far more problems with non paying bidders than I have shady sellers, but hey, if they want to make feedback even less important to me and others they're more than welcome to change the system.
I'm assuming they will leave your seller/buyer history so anyone who really needs to know can check out your history instead of just looking at the number attached to your user ID.

[dumbldor]

Well that is the the stupidest thing Iv'e read in a while. Feed back if left ( it is a voluntary thing) should be left at the end of the transaction. If you think the transaction ends with you paying, them ebay probably isn't for you.

Wow, I couldn't agree with you more, Zemo. Sometimes, the ability to leave a buyer negative feedback is a seller's only consolation after the buyer does a chargeback and rips off the seller, well after the buyer paid. The buyer's obligation and responsibility in a transaction does not end when he has paid.

[toys2cool]

the only good thing I read was that the feedback from the repeat customers will count

[Brue]

But if the transaction was over when you paid, what gives you a right to return something? Following your logic, you paid, your end of the transaction is over, so that's it, you take what you get.

What gives a buyer the right to return is a sellers own stated return policy. often stating that if the item does not match the description.

besides - how often has a buyer actually returned something to you?
my policy allows buyers to return if the item does not match the description - which would be my own fault anyway - wouldn't it? i have offered it once before when a seller felt that i did not represent the product well (stains on a Halloween costume - they were clearly visible in the photos but i did not state them in the description - i gave them an option of a small partial refund or return (they pay return shipping) - again a seller who is representing teh product honestly will not have returns - also a wise seller will establish a reasonable return policy.

the buyer still met THEIR end at payment. should walmart not allow you to take home your TV when there is a chance you will bring it back?

[JPkempo]

"When a buyer doesn't respond to the Unpaid Item (UPI) process the negative or neutral Feedback they have left for that transaction will be removed. "

I think this is to counter the no neg feedback.

[dumbldor]

Brue stated that FEES HAVE BEEN LOWERED.

That is actually not true. The listing fee has been slightly lowered, gallery is now free, but the final value fee is WAY UP (which brings the overall cost WAY UP!!!).

[Zemo]

If Bruce had not left feedback at payment for this buyer. He would not have ended up with this

NEG- ARRIVED IN AWFUL CONDITION NOT POST OFFICE ITEMS WERE THROWN IN BOX CRUSHED garcia1732 ( 14) Aug-23-06 13:50
Reply by brueh (Aug-23-06 18:42):
Item sent in good cond & buyer made no attempt to contact me before leaving neg.

Obviously this transaction was not over at payment.

[Mikey]

Brue stated that FEES HAVE BEEN LOWERED.

That is actually not true. The listing fee has been slightly lowered, gallery is now free, but the final value fee is WAY UP (which brings the overall cost WAY UP!!!).

Dang !!!
I never noticed that until you mentioned that Dan.
Even with their free Gallery and lower Insertion Fee, it still comes out more on the final value fee.

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[JPkempo]

Final Value Fees
The Final Value Fees will be revised per the table below.




Final Value Fees for Auction-style and Fixed Price listings





Closing Price Final Value Fee Final Value Fee (effective 02/20/2008)
Item not sold No fee No change
$0.01-$25.00 5.25% of the closing value 8.75% of the closing value

$25.01 - $1,000.00 5.25% of the initial $25.00, plus 3.25% of the remaining closing value balance ($25.01 to $1,000.00) 8.75% of the initial $25.00, plus 3.50% of the remaining closing value balance ($25.01 to $1,000.00)

Over $1,000.01 5.25% of the initial $25.00, plus 3.25% of the initial $25.00 - $1,000.00 plus 1.50% of the remaining closing value balance ($1,000.01 - closing value) 8.75% of the initial $25.00, plus 3.50% of the initial $25.00 - $1,000.00 plus 1.50% of the remaining closing value balance ($1,000.01 - closing value)

[MegoSteve]

the buyer still met THEIR end at payment. should walmart not allow you to take home your TV when there is a chance you will bring it back?

You should be morally opposed to returning stuff, because your part of the transaction ended when you paid for it. That's it, you have no further recourse, because your part of the transaction has ended.

Oh, wait, now you're saying it didn't end until you had a chance to look at it and decide if you want to keep it? Well, if that's the case, then I'm going to wait to leave you feedback, because it's at that point you can still try to jerk me around.

That's why I never leave feedback as a seller first. I do as a buyer, because the transaction truly ends when the buyer has had a chance to evaluate the merchandise and contact the seller to work out a resolution if there is an issue.