Supes and WW sitting in a tree...

[ctc]

>they need to drop the history since the origin story and then go from there

BLASPHEMER!!!!!!!!

Actually; I don't think they CAN, 'cos the 80's put the emphasis on continuity and you'd have to find some way to wean a significant number of your fans off the idea. Not easy to do, since so many of the oldsters seem to dislike anything new and/or different out of hand, and the last decade or so has planted the idea that ANY reboot is temporary firmly into the mind of the reader. You'd need to find some way to distance THAT reboot from all the others....

>I think they need to wipe the slate clean and start over like they did at the start of the Silver age

....or the first Crisis, or the one where Superboy punches reality in the face, or the Flash-themed one, or how everybody was all grins and not killing back in the 50's.... Wiping the slate clean happened a lot back in the day, but our generation had the idea that every little fussy detail mattered drilled into our heads by the 80's secondary comic industry. We're too aware of the behind the scenes bits to let go and let things run their course. Nobody says stuff likie "Ooooh! New Superman! I wonder where this is gonna go." We're all "Oh, that's SSSSOOOOO stupid, what they're doing to Superman, and that story sounds way too contrived, and is just Writer McAsshat purposefully trying to undo everything that Writer McOtherasshat did before him 'cos they hate each other, and Arty McCrosshatch is a horrible artist, and he draws those weird glowing tubes on everything so it all looks like Tron...."

Kids would be able to let things slide, but they got their own comics to read and don't care so much about the superheroes since the post-80's navelgazing of the Big Two-ish requires WAY too much research to get anything from.

Weird bit: Ever notice how Marvel does stories with superheroes dating, whereas DC has every hero come equipped with a significant other who's a normal? I kinda think that's another aspect of the DC characters being older that we were discussing; back in the 40's it was essential that EVERY hero came with a significant other who tagged along, contributed nothing except a potential hostage, and failed to recognize their true love after a change of clothes.

....maybe that's why Clark Kent must own a closet full of identical blue suits....

Don C.

[madmarva]

As far as I'm concerned the DCnU is an alternate reality or a massive elseworld story. The real DCU lives in my memory and back issues, as far as I'm concerned.

But, since the Clark and Lois' relationship is platonic at this point in the DCnU's continuity, I like the idea of exploring the Superman-Wonder Woman relationship. Kingdom Come barely touched on it, Byrne's take on it was one issue and then the story done in the late 1990s where they were trapped in an alternate reality or time line or whatever was was also a single issue, if I remember correctly.

It's leading into the Trinity War thing. I just hope the war isn't instigated by the DCnU Batman being jealous of Wonder Woman for stealing his secret crush, Superman. Now, that would create some water-cooler talk.

I was kind of hoping that all the bickering between WW and GL in the JL book would eventually lead to a Moonlighting-like, coffee-table make-out session. Do they have coffee tables in the JL headquarters?

As for DC wiping the slate clean and starting over, that's pretty much what the DCnU is, it's just not a very appealing version, imo. DC's retaining only the continuity they want and playing fast and loose with it to boot. I really believe the only reason for setting the books 5 years after Superman first started operating is so they don't have to explain how 100s of super-powered individual just burst onto the scene all in the same month.

[Timothy2251]

Somewhere, Brodie from Mallrats is feeling very pleased about this romance...

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[bobws]

It's a new universe, so this is the place to finally let these two get together. Not that i will be reading about it except here at the MM.

[The Toyroom]

Apparently Superman/Clark & Lois Lane will "never likely" have a relationship in the DCnU. They are going balls to the wall with this new status quo.

"Hopefully this will raise a lot of eyebrows,” DC co-publisher Lee said. “We welcome the watercooler chatter."

I'm done. They can play around with their little Elseworlds universe all they want. MY DC universe is still out there somewhere. I just have to refind it...

[Earth 2 Chris]

"At DC, we pride ourselves on ignoring and belittling our fans..."

Chris

[Toyman_Chris]

As far as I'm concerned the DCnU is an alternate reality or a massive elseworld story. The real DCU lives in my memory and back issues, as far as I'm concerned.

I totally agree.

[MEMEGO]

For all the talk this comic generated, before hitting the press and all the little News coverage this issue had, the end product is no big deal even disappoing. DC and Marvel need to stop the event/shock driven sells, they have run their course and are helping to ruin comics as we know them.