BSG Morning After Review

[ctc]

Hmmmm....

They're a bit askance, but for me it's nothing insurmountable. If I can scrape together the extra bucks I'll definitely get them, but I can see tinkering with them a bit. (The helmet would probably fit another figure if you glue a small strip of sponge into it, like the old AJ helmets.)

Don C.

[rche]

I'm not aware of any U.S. factories that even do this sort of thing.

that's why you have to use your imagination. Plastic toys have been made in foreign factories for 50+ years in order to minimize labor costs and maximize profit on what is generally regarded as a disposable item.

However, if this sort of thing is viewed as a QC/language barrier problem, I'm just saying one solution would be to remove those barriers. So that would mean small scale (US) manufacturers would need to figure out a US factory sollution, or spend a bunch more on some plane tickets and learn one of the myriad Chinese dialects.

I don't really see any of these things happening so I am just sort of hanging on and seeing what comes out next.

[The Shadow]

Well, this si heartbreaking all around. BBP has got to be bummed after this much time and effort to see bobble heads and the reactions to them here. I know I'm bummed because I was really looking forward to these. I don't mind the Cylon so much, but Apollo's giant melon is a definate bummer.

Maybe someone can get on the phone and start screaming in mandarin to get another batch of Apollos and shrink the heads.

Thanks for the review, disappointing as it was

[Nostalgiabuff]

i still think they look great and can't wait to get them and put them on display.

[thunderbolt]

Man, I keep looking at that big old waterhead Richard Hatch and hear the MST3K Big Head jingle.
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[Tothiro]

That's disappointing. Cylon heads are too small, just as I feared

A few have commented that the Cylon's head is too small. I want to say for the record that I think that isn't true. when I mentioned the dimensions being off, what i mean is the jaw to skull ratio. IE a human head would not fit a human jaw hinge in there. But otherwise the scale is actually right... I mean it's pretty dead on for classic mego sizing. I think what's throwing a lot of peeps is the human heads are so ridiculously large that maybe they're comparing them? In that case the cylon isn't giant-headed like the rest of the guys.
I do think his noggin came out swell.

I want to say to anyone still wanting to pick up at least a Cylon who hasn't decided one way or the other yet - You should. It may not sound like it from the discussion, but I do really like this guy. It will look pretty killer on a shelf if that's your only thing. In fact if the arm cuffs were just glued to the sleeves instead of the arms so they could push forward and the elbows could bend, I might even have happily left it as it was (ok I would have carved some off the front of the pelvis clamshell so he could sit, but still).

Also, and this is probably the only "spin" I'd be likely to put on the outcome to borrow Jim's note, I think if these had landed in my mailbox from the old CTVT (because I haven't held a KISS figure) I'd have no surprises and would be telling everyone how much the company kind of turned around. That may sound like back-handed praise offered over a low bar - but what I'm trying to say is that BBP! has turned out such reliable product that has overall been so well done that there is an expectation of new stuff being right from the word go. I think part of the disappointment over misfires in this wave (those colonial heads... I would be happy dropping $20 if a right sized head were the only usable part in the box) comes not only from loving the property but also from BBP! having earned a higher expectation. The head scaling has I think, probably been a communication issue for a while with several offerings, but it's just really a shame this time around.

I know in my heart of hearts that if I could go impulse buy a few more Cylons this moment, I probably would.

[Tothiro]

Hmmmm....

They're a bit askance, but for me it's nothing insurmountable. If I can scrape together the extra bucks I'll definitely get them, but I can see tinkering with them a bit. (The helmet would probably fit another figure if you glue a small strip of sponge into it, like the old AJ helmets.)

Don C.

I uh... I got nothing for that, D.
I mean by all means pick 'em up - there's good to be had there, but I don't see any saving that helmet. It's legitimately out of every scale. It's wide enough for 12" scale, and tall enough for 10" scale. On an 8" figure the base of the helmet is exactly as wide as the shoulders.

Here's what I think is my final thought on head scale - and I'm really legit sorry to the BBP! guys and everyone helping out for whenever they walk in to see this thread... I mean I have a life, everyone here does, I go weeks sometimes without stopping off (it hurts, but I do it) and I'm sure they probably haven't opened the morning paper yet to see this.
But anyway - I first thought from the SDCC pics that the heads were 10%, maybe 15% too large. Ok Let's look at that.
I measured out a few - and I went metric - shazam, supes, and galahad are all about 3.2 cm tall from absolute base of neck (where it emerges from the torso) to top of head (supes is a touch taller maybe by .5mm). Spidey is 3.4, and Captain America - which everyone has widely regarded as a giant melon head, comes in at 3.5cm... Apollo sits at 4 cm. Taking Shazam as a baseline target goal, Apollo is a full 25% larger than he should be.

Ok wait, wait - there's variation in sculpt, hair size, etc right? I mean aqualad with his Giraffe neck and mussed 'do comes in at 3.2cm and he's perfectly scaled for 7" right? And who am I -the scale Nazi?? Ok. So let's go base of chin to top of eyebrow... I mean we're measuring faces then.

Captain Kirk - 1.7cm (also a 3.2cm head) Galahad - 1.6cm. Aquaman - 1.6 (and he's 3.4cm tall)
Apollo clocks in at 2cm from chin to brow. That's half the total dimension - just like roughly all of the other heads.
And here's the thing - Dr Who? 4cm tall. Ok I've heard it's all hair. I was told directly in a post that my measuring stick was broken - it was perfectly in scale (the actor just has a big head) chin to brow? Doc's face is 2cm tall. Just like Apollo's.

So I was thinking... 25% too large, that's basically a Matchbox 10" body, right? I have one of those around here don't I...

Wow.
Just look at that. I mean that would have been an amazingly beautiful figure had it been made in scale.
It ended up 1/7.2nd scale instead of 1/9th.

So... uhh, hey there. About that. Both sides of that ocean's got measuring sticks is all I'm saying. This guy? Not 100% convinced it's factory miscommunication. I dunno what the straight dope is, I'm just hoping something happens different in future waves. How awesome that looks on a 10" body is making me weep geek tears.

"Hey, hey uh, Boomer? Hey those were some pretty crazy mushrooms on that last planet, huh? Hey man. I feel kinda... You ever wonder about the Lords of Kobol? I mean really? Dude I feel alive. Hey Boomy buddy... You got spiders on your faces... You ok man? Hey, talk to me Boomy... Say the Safe Word..."

[Boywonder0]

Is that a foot crack? That's impossible in a Dr. Mego body! Did you switch the body?

[Chris]

We swap the Apollo head with something resin and have ENYAWD paint it. Done and done. Luv the Cylon. G' Night Everybody!

[Tothiro]

Is that a foot crack? That's impossible in a Dr. Mego body! Did you switch the body?

That cracked foot? On that 10" Matchbox body that's listed as a 10" Matchbox body in my post? No I didn't switch it - it's still a 10" Matchbox body. =)