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From Bleeding Cool:
'HawkWatch: Tony Daniel on Savage Hawkman:
“The first thing that I wanted to get rid of is the reincarnation factor, the Egyptian thing and the tragedy of him and Hawkgirl. All that stuff. A lot of convolution there. Is that a word or did I just coin a phrase?”
huh.
The Packaging King
1. I don't consider Tony Daniel a writer
2. The reincarnation factor was the coolest thing about all of the Hawkman versions post-Crisis
3. If there is no reincarnation factor then this better be Katar Hol from Thangar...
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Agreed! Johns played that up perfectly. Not only does it add a brilliant romantic quality to the character, but it also provides opportunities for "past lives" stories. I loved that characters like Silent Knight were made part of the Hawkman mythos.
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Yeah Johns (and Robinson, don't forget him) built upon DC continuity perfectly with the past lives thing...
But apparently no one else since then has been able to do the same...Remember Jim Starlin's weird reboot one-shot from a few years back? DC's solution yet again is to scrap something good just because they don't have the writers stable to pull it off. Johns bent over backward to make Hawkman cool again, it worked, and once he was off the book it was a constant scramble to maintain the series. Heck, it actually became "HawkGIRL"!
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Let's hope DC is doing Earth 2 with Carter Hall and keeping all the reincarnation material with Robinson on a JSA title.
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^ Yeah but characters from the past lives like Silent Knight and Nighthawk and Cinnamon and Gentleman Ghost have traditionally been "Earth-1" characters....That could open up a whole new can of worms if they really want to go down that path....
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This Crap Will Blow Up In Their Face.
Dc Has Ruined Their Heroes.
Sad, Indeed.
Robinson and Johns did very well with the reincarnated Carter Hall. It was a great book with Rags Morales on art. But man, DC squandered it so quickly.
In all the various reboots in the last 2 decades, no one has ever brought back the original Katar Hol space cop. Which is weird, as that is the version most folks were acquainted with.
Chris
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I always wished that Justice League Unlimited had a chance to continue a little longer just because they had just introduced Carter Hall, and it turned out to be a brilliant compromise between the Thanagerian mythology already built up on the show via Hawkgirl, and the new reincarnation stuff that was currently being explored in the comics.
Again, in the latest incarnation of the Hawks, I think they ran into that trouble of trying too hard to retrofit the continuity rather than just ignore it. There was absolutely no reason for example to reintroduce the Hawkworld version of Shayera or "Carter Hall Jr" into the series... which I think was pretty much the Shark Jump point of that downward spiral.
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Toony Daniel really shouldn't talk, he sounds like an idiot.
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