Poor Georgie.
Seriously, I'm so sick and tired of Lucas already...I have little sympathy for him nowadays...wronged or not.
Sorry, I respect your opinions...this is just my own take on the matter, guys.
el Hombre de Acero
Poor Georgie.
Seriously, I'm so sick and tired of Lucas already...I have little sympathy for him nowadays...wronged or not.
Sorry, I respect your opinions...this is just my own take on the matter, guys.
Last edited by Hector; Jul 28, '11 at 4:44 AM.
Alan Scott is the best GL
Lucas has screwed fans who have been wanting full official armor for 30 years forcing fans who want to troop to make pvc or fiberglass copies at home and DoItYourself them or buy a set someone else DIY'd off ebay. For the prices the fake armor costs this real correct stuff is awesome. Each side claims partial victory as Lucas blocked him from selling to the massive US based Troops of the 501st but at least all the commonwealth fans can buy it instead of some garage kit.
IF lucas was selling their own armor kits like they do clone helmets I might feel differently but he has flatly stated he will not sell full armor
SO I am in the fabricator's corner
I also disagree with this ruling. Forget about Lucas and his billions, now anyone who wants to remake any costume prop from a film released 15 years ago is allowed to according to this ruling. Something is not right about this.Originally Posted by johnmiic
"The farther we go, the more the ultimate explanation recedes from us, and all we have left is faith."
~Vaclav Hlavaty
Invincible Ironing Man
If Lucas were to be sued by everyone HE has "borrowed" ideas from, he'd be broke. I still admire the man, and SW did change my life, but I now know that a lot of what I thought to be from his imagination is, often for a large part, lifted from previous sources. OK, so he didn't make a decent agreement with this man. Well, settle out of court, pay some money, and make sure it doesn't happen again.
He should have come to an agreement instead of sending in the Shock Troopers.
And now I have to get back to my Ewok puppy mill. Those furry buggers are selling like hotcakes!
Let's hope George doesn't come to Belgium...
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"Everything has an end.
Except sausages, which have two..."
This is definitely a bad decision. Lucas paid this guy to create a model based on designs that Lucas also paid to have designed. Lucas owns the rights to those models, this guy doesn't own crap.
Alan Scott is the best GL
I may be missing what your concerns are so please correct me but so what if someone want's to make a prop copy if they were the one who made the design. There have been resin kits of Aliens guns for decades but it wouldn't replace a movie used prop. The difference here is the quality is as good as the actual screen item. There have been licensed Indiana Jones fedoras for decades (and frankly the ones from the 80's were more accurate than the current ones) but none of them could replace a screen worn hat with provenance for those who want such items. I am a reenactor and even the most exact repro is not as desireable as a vintage item for a collector but the repro allows for the preservation of real artifacts while placating the masses who want to have one for fun.
recently I was watching reruns of Hollywood treasures and the guy who did all the leatherwork for the Naboo costumes, the 5th element, and even indy's coat was letting them auction off his stuff that was all film worn. The film production team got nothing from this sale.
I agree it was Lucas's own arrogance which led to this. Rather than negotiating a license so both of them can make some money he figured he would squash the guy instead. The courts in the UK basically gave Lucas the finger in the eye. The owner almost always opts to say no rather than let someone put out new merchandise. In this case it is high quality stuff and very desirable. It wouldn't harm Lucasfilm to have these items out there. It would've been a better move to endorse the guy and have him on your team.
S'ok Hec. I'm not going to go all insane clown JP posse or geoffrude on you.
Last edited by johnmiic; Jul 28, '11 at 10:32 AM.
"The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow...How did it come to this?"
Lucas is too powerful for me to believe this case was initiated and/or
spearheaded by him anyway.
Odds are someone in his organization brought it to his attention and they
pursued it as a business entity as a mater of day-today LucasFilm business protection.
How anyone could hold this case against Lucas is beyond me.
When I .... how do you say (?) .... think of my mindframe on this spaceplane, I'm Skywalker with my X-Wing like I was when I was a kid.
I don't think this case has set a new precedent or anything.
First of all, normally when someone is hired to make props for a movie there's a pretty clear-cut contract in place - especially regarding copyrights. In this instance the issue was that there was just an "implied agreement" - Lucas' company or Lucas himself was not protecting himself correctly - that's a key part of this case, no?
Second of all there's already a HUGE underground market for props. A lot of propmakers and hobbyists already make decent money turning out replicas just like this - and not even based on original molds - so I don't think a ruling in either way would make a difference to that underground market.
Last edited by Brazoo; Jul 28, '11 at 11:56 AM.
Need I remind you guys that we're on a site where people sell unlicensed and copyright violating merch ALL THE TIME.
In this issue I don't have any feelings for or against Lucas or his company - I believe that if you create something with that much impact on culture this is the kind of thing that is bound to happen.
Star Wars maybe © ILM but it's also part of our shared culture.
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