I'll gladly take the Megos off anybody's hands that believe the world is going to end soon, since you won't be needing them.
A serious question for believers:
If this "end of he world" date comes and goes and we're still here - will that radically change the way you think about government and mainstream science? Will you alter the way you rationally weigh radical claims like this - or have you always been interested in this stuff and don't see one failure as something that can change your mind. I'm genuinely curious.
I'm assuming most of the info in this thread is mixed in with the 2012 Mayan Calendar Ending / Plant X hoopla - and I've seen several "end of world" dates. So I'm just wondering if 2012 passes and we're still here do those people find a new hobby, or do they just cling to the same ideas and try to find a new date?
Unlike a lot of non-mainstream or supernatural ideas "end of world" predictions have a clearly testable premiss. I can't test to prove or disprove ghosts (for example) but we're all going to know if 2012 happens and we're all still here.
Will cryptic and anomalous details scrutinized to the nth degree that are used to build a claim for a major conspiracy still be interesting to those folks if we don't all go boom?
Or will they change the way they think, and take more stalk in consensus built science and Occam's Razor and the Carl Sagan adage: "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"?
A lot of these guys are saying November of this year will witness an "extinction level event" caused by Comet C/2010 X1, although it's supposed to be closest to us October 16. That's a pretty solid date to which the Elenin guys can be held.
What is the plausible motive for NASA covering up Elenin anyway?
They're laying people off and getting funding cut right now. Plus they're currently budgeted for and working on longterm projects that go past the 16th of October 2011. Seems like a kinda bonehead move to bother continuing with those projects if they do know something - doesn't it?
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You are a bold and courageous person, afraid of nothing. High on a hill top near your home, there stands a dilapidated old mansion. Some say the place is haunted, but you don't believe in such myths. One dark and stormy night, a light appears in the topmost window in the tower of the old house. You decide to investigate... and you never return...
Amazingly people who have made careers out of "end of times" predictions don't totally loose their credibility forever after they're proven wrong. Which is amazing to me. They either modify their predictions slightly so they don't get caught or wait a couple of years and make new predictions and regrow their audience.
What I'm wondering though is, if I bought into this particular conspiracy theory/prediction and it was wrong would it just change what I thought (for example: the Earth was getting hit by Elenin and the government was covering it up) or would it change the way I thought (for example: next time I'm going to use different tools of logic before drawing conclusions). Know what I mean?
People ask ME what it would take for me to believe in any number of things. (Take your pick of conspiracies or supernatural phenomena.) I always wonder what it would take to change THEIR minds to think about these things in a different way. One thing about end of world predictions is that it's not like one of these enduring questions with no concrete evidence on either side - there's no stalemate. One side is right and one side is wrong. It's nice and simple that way.
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