My Ebay Rant

[Adam West]

I found a hidden auction for two wooden Nutcrackers made by the Anri company that are very collectible (book value is about $350 a piece) and I see them sell regularly on Ebay for $200 a piece if listed properly.

The seller adds a note under his listing that there is a BIN for $175 for the pair but he doesn't revise his item for the BIN.

I email him within minutes of the BIN add on telling him I'll take the pair for $175 and if he could just edit the listing with a BIN, I'll hit the button.

He receives my email, tells me done deal, I hit the BIN and pay him immediately.

Today, he sends me an email along with a refund telling me that someone else offered to purchase from him for the BIN price before me and some nonsense about the paypal not coming through.

This just irritates me. To me it stinks of something that has happened before to me. Someone probably saw the auction after I won it, contacted the seller and told him he sold them too low and offered to pay more for it.

I have already responded to the seller that I did email him within minutes of him adding the BIN in the body of the listing telling him I wanted it and to please add the BIN, he emailed me back noting that he added the BIN feature, I hit the BIN and feel like I am the fair winner of the auction and hope he would reconsider.

I also feel like I have no recourse. This has happened to me a couple of times, once on a minty boxed T-1 Supes that I won for $125. I neg'd the seller and responded with a retalitory neg. I tried to have Ebay remove it but they just ignored it. If I neg. this seller, I'm sure he'll turn around and neg. me even though I've done nothing wrong in this transaction.

I am curious if Ebay has changed its policy regarding negative feedback. If I leave negative feedback for a seller for a failure to sell me an item that I won, can I prevent him from leaving retalitory feedback or is there some process in EBAY for buyers that is similar to the non-paying bidder process?

[jds1911a1]

That is the real weakness of the feedback system. many sellers hold off on feedback to strike back against the buyer even when they are paid in a fast manner (or they don't leave feedback at all for the buyer) You can initiate a process via ebay Square trade (last time I did one was $20.00 fee) to have a feedback removed from your account, but it is really the principle of the feedback for you as it costs the fee whether they find in your favor or not (i was lucky they did for me and the negative was expunged). when I had 50 feedback I cared now that I have over 1100 I will ding somone if I feel it will hurt them more than me since I expect a flameback. When I sell I leave feedback as soon as I am paid and as a buyer as soon as my item arrives. I often end up have to send reminders to others to do the same for me

[Laparka]

There is a way to turn him in to eBay for not sending you the item. I have done it before but to no avail. Some idiot listed a Big Jim Camper and I used BIN. She then emails me telling me there was not supposed to be a BIN and goes back on the sale. She got ****ed that I turned her in to eBay and told me God would take care of me in the end. She relisted the item with a starting bid of what the BIN was and one person bid on it. So she ended with the same final price. Such a smart person!! eBay will put a strike on his account which is little recourse, but hey it's a bit of revenge on your part. After so many strikes they pull his account. I don't remember how to file the complaint but it is there. Either in the auction listing or somewhere in the site map. As for negative feedback, you give him one and he will give you one. Can't stop that.

[toys2cool]

That sucks,it's happened to me a bunch of times.There's nothing you could do.I think the feedback thing has changed for the seller..which if he files a non-paying bidder thing and you don't answer he could neg you and you can't do it to him

[cjefferys]

If the seller added the BIN and you hit that, you can report him to ebay as a non performing seller. It will be a strike on his record.

[Zemo]

Report him as a non preforming seller right away. See if he changes his mind. If he doesn't, neg him into tomorrow. If he negs back, so what as long as your a buyer. It doesn't affect you a bit. People should always have 2 id's, 1 for buying and 1 for selling. Then you avoid this hassle. Square trade is the most useless thing on ebay.

[Zemo]

That is the real weakness of the feedback system. many sellers hold off on feedback to strike back against the buyer even when they are paid in a fast manner (or they don't leave feedback at all for the buyer) You can initiate a process via ebay Square trade (last time I did one was $20.00 fee) to have a feedback removed from your account, but it is really the principle of the feedback for you as it costs the fee whether they find in your favor or not (i was lucky they did for me and the negative was expunged). when I had 50 feedback I cared now that I have over 1100 I will ding somone if I feel it will hurt them more than me since I expect a flameback. When I sell I leave feedback as soon as I am paid and as a buyer as soon as my item arrives. I often end up have to send reminders to others to do the same for me

Feedback is voluntary. The transaction is not over at the buyers payment. There are alot of things that can go wrong after payment is made. Chargebacks are the main thing.

And if some pain in the neck sends me more than 1 reminder about leaving feedback, the feedback I leave may not be the color they were hoping for!

[LadyZod]

You do have the option of leaving negative feedback, where you clearly state exactly what happened. "Seller backed out of deal to sell for higher price off ebay".

He'll leave you negative feedback.

You'll reply to the negative feedback on your profile with the statement
"Retalitory feedback; seller backed out to sell off ebay"

Unless things have changed recently, Ebay allows for mutual removal of negative feedback. You can file for it, and if the seller agrees (and what seller wouldn't?) the negative strike comes off.... BUT, and here's the kicker... BUT:

Everything posted stays.

The red neg mark is removed, but all the comments remain forever. That is why it's important to use every inch of space to state clearly what happened. Next time some checks their feedback, it'll show one mutually removed comment... and people WILL seek it out. And they will know.

Now, if the seller is a jerk and leaves any NASTY comments on your profile, calls you a name, mentions law enforcement or anything like that, ebay will remove their comment on your profile but leave yours on his.

[Cryptoys]

The best thing to do is leave him a POSITIVE feedback and then rip him in the stars. The stars are anonymous and you can get him there.