Baggies, the facts!

[megozilla13]

If the switches improve the figure, I'm all for it. I rather have a mint green arrow with a mint unbroken quiver that came from another green arrow, than a green arrow with his "original" broken quiver. And even if the switch was disclosed, I would never consider it NOT original. Would anyone value the broken one more because it was originally packed with the figure?

mikej

[sauce]

^^^I agree with you that I would prefer the mint and unbroken parts from another original source.

[dumbldor]

Nothing against those that are in disagreement, but I do 100% agree with Mike J. A Blackbeard sword is a Zorro sword, and vice versa. As long as it is original, they are indistinguishable. Once they are no longer MIB or MOC, does it really matter if a like for like change or donation of an ORIGINAL factory part is made?

I also like the example of the broken GA bow. A GA bow is a GA bow, and a Robin Hood bow is also a GA bow, and vice versa, once they are loose from the package. How could you possibly know for sure which original figure it came from? And I am always for an upgrade, even if it comes from another original Mego figure. I don't get the counter argument at all, but to each his own.

[ctc]

>unless it is SEALED on a card or in a box, you will NEVER know for sure!

Yeah. I think you're starting to get into stuff that's indistinguishable. A Blackbeard sword and a Zorro sword may come from different figures, but they're exactly the same composition-wise. Unless you were gifted with the paranormal power of psychometry you'd never know. 'Course, I guess that's partly why MIB figures go for more.

Don C.

[kryptosmaster]

Your example of MY logic is false, so please speak for yourself and not me. I in no way implied this. Original SI is original SI. Duh! Just like I was saying...Your point of my view is a worthless opinion.

Books NOT on Lonnie's shelf:

Oh, and before you flip out; I'm just messing with you. I actually agree with a lot of what you say (silently) but you have this way of saying things that seems to get you on some people's nerves.

I could tell re-strung figures. And I'm pretty sure Bryan could too. You can't find the EXACT elastic. It might be close, but not exact.

If you're that anal that you'd take apart a figure and get a magnifying glass out to check the elastic then you have other more pressing things to worry about.

My example is based on exactly what you wrote.....


thus a Zorro with a sword derived from a Blackbeard figure is NOT original according to you. If thats not what you meant, then you should explain yourself better.


mikej

Yep.

I've gotta agree here. In the strictest sense, if that particular sword did not originally come with that particular Zorro, it is not original. Original Mego yes, but not original Zorro. In the strictest sense, it doesn't matter if everything was made at the same time, in the same factory, and both Zorro and Blackbeard were packed with the same sword. If Zorro doesn't have THE sword that he was originally packed with at the factory and stuffed in his little Zorro box, he is not original. Original Mego yes, not original Zorro.

You have every right to feel that way but it's flawed logic. If something that petty bothers you then you shouldn't buy loose figures.

If the switches improve the figure, I'm all for it. I rather have a mint green arrow with a mint unbroken quiver that came from another green arrow, than a green arrow with his "original" broken quiver. And even if the switch was disclosed, I would never consider it NOT original. Would anyone value the broken one more because it was originally packed with the figure?

mikej

Thank you.
I actually have one comment on this though. If the broken bow (for example) was my ORIGINAL bow from my childhood then I would keep it with that figure just because it has more SENTIMENTAL value to me. Of course I would never sell it so it doesn't really pertain directly to the discussion at hand.

I don't get the counter argument at all, but to each his own.

I actually do understand it. It's called OCD and I have a couple of friends who have it BAD. One can't function if even ONE small part of his daily routine gets derailed and the other led to her husband divorcing her because he couldn't take it anymore.

Rich

[sauce]

Rich, if this book isn't on your shelf, then I highly recommend it:

[kryptosmaster]

Rich, if this book isn't on your shelf, then I highly recommend it:
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I looked up the synopsis on Wiki. Doesn't interest me but thanks for the recommend.
Rich

[clemso]

On the Zorro sword, I don't mind if I knew it was an original Blackbeard, if they are identical factory made original vintage Mego parts that is fine by me. The exceptions might be the example given of the Parker Shoes where they have been replaced with AJ ones with pin holes. I wouldn't get all anal about it but, if you can tell, then there lies the problem.

[dumbldor]

I thought I was the most OCD person here.

Someone wrote that if the legacy of all the parts means that much to someone, then collect packaged figures, not loose. I think there is a lot of validity to that thought. Of course, there are a whole host of other issues with collecting MOC or MIB.

[palitoy]

I'm now holding auditions for "Baggies: The Musical", I'll be playing Mike J.

[sauce]

I'd like to audition for the part of "old and crusty tape adhesive residue"

[clemso]

I'm now holding auditions for "Baggies: The Musical", I'll be playing Mike J.

Who wants to play Polythene Pam

[EMCE Hammer]

Don't lump restringing a T1 figure in with this argument - it's an entirely different concept. I know plenty of discriminating collectors who prefer that their T1s have original elastic. The process of taking a pile of T1 parts and restringing them with similar cord available from Joann's is a *repair.* Nothing OCD about it, and apples and oranges as far as this debate goes.

Personally, I don't care if my Superman has Cap boots, or if my Romulan has a Klingon phaser.

[clemso]

Dear Ocd'ers, Price sticker or no price sticker?

[vulcan2074]

Dear Ocd'ers, Price sticker or no price sticker?

I dig price stickers as long as there not hideous
Sammy