Cipsa General Urko

[sauce]

I don't seem to have those comparison photos. I thought I took them, but only snapped a pic of what I thought was a CIPSA bandolier. I'll have to borrow a nice complete USA Ape for a photo shoot. But my thoughts about the differences are the color shade of the plastic, and also those molded bumps being ever-so slightly different.

Picture from WorldMEGO:


Picture from the MM accessory check:

[sauce]

Again from our massively helpful and useful MM galleries, the rifles:

[piecemaker]

I don't seem to have those comparison photos. I thought I took them, but only snapped a pic of what I thought was a CIPSA bandolier. I'll have to borrow a nice complete USA Ape for a photo shoot. But my thoughts about the differences are the color shade of the plastic, and also those molded bumps being ever-so slightly different.

Picture from WorldMEGO:

http://worldmego.com/WMAC/Thumbnails/59.jpg

Picture from the MM accessory check:
http://www.megomuseum.com/pota/acces...o/genbando.jpg

Well thanks for looking.When i first looked at the bandolier you pictured,i thought there may be a difference in the ammo pouch "buttons",but looking at it closer it looks like that bandolier is in "played with" condition and the "buttons" are simply worn down.Looking at the pic megoapesnut posted with the accessories in the sealed baggies,the bandolier buttons on it look to be the same as MEGO.Hard to tell on the color shade from those so a different shade of plastic could be a difference.

[sauce]

I'm starting to wonder if I don't have a CIPSA bando

[piecemaker]

Again from our massively helpful and useful MM galleries, the rifles:
http://www.megomuseum.com/pota/acces...oldier/gun.jpg

The gallery pics are very helpful,i've already checked those out.They cover MEGO and the known repro parts for each accessory.I've been to several websites and couldn't seem to find any info about these particular CIPSA accessories.(Rifle and Bandolier)The rifle has already been figured out,the bandolier is the question now.I'm sure someone here has the answer or we can figure it out.

[piecemaker]

I'm starting to wonder if I don't have a CIPSA bando

With the pics i've seen you post of CIPSA apes and their bandoliers,its possible you DO have one,unless the pics i've seen are old and you dont have them anymore.

[megoapesnut]

I pulled my CIPSA Ursus down from the shelf and my boxed Mego Ursus from another shelf and studied the bandoliers. I am certain, as much as anyone can reasonably be certain, that the CIPSA Ursus has a genuine CIPSA bandolier as I opened it from a sealed plastic bag of accessories that I purchased from Arturo. I also find it hard to believe that my boxed Mego Ursus was removed from the box and a CIPSA bandolier put on it as that would be highly unlikely and I purchased it from a very reliable seller who does not collect or deal in the foreign figures. So I personally believe the one to be CIPSA and the other to be Mego without a shadow of a doubt. AND...drum roll please...

They are exactly the same in style, design and color. There are no differences that I can detect whatsoever. The bandolier that is sealed inside my CIPSA Urko and Ursus boxed figures also both look identical to the Mego (from what I can tell inside the plastic). So my conclusion is that they are the same. There might have been slight color variations at one point or another, but I am believing that Mego supplied CIPSA with the heads, knives and bandoliers. Somehow CIPSA got a Mego rifle mold with no checkering on the grip and no "bolts" on the handle and they didn't bother to take the Mego copyright off the mold, like they did with the bodies - or Mego supplied them with the rifles as well from a slightly different mold.

Here is a comparison pic. Sorry it is so crappy. I was to tired to get out my flash head. Hopefully I will get time to do that over the weekend and I will post better pics

[piecemaker]

Thanks for taking the time to post those pictures.

[cjefferys]

It's great to have a verification like that, thanks for taking the time to do the comparisons. And so in your opinion, the knives are the same too?

[English Paul]

, but I am believing that Mego supplied CIPSA with the heads,

The set of Cipsa'a that I had all had differences in the vinyl used for the heads in comparison to the regular Mego apes. The Cipsa vinyl had an almost transparent waxy look to it. The base vinyl colour just didn't seem as dense as the Mego heads.

[megoapesnut]

It's great to have a verification like that, thanks for taking the time to do the comparisons. And so in your opinion, the knives are the same too?

Yes, they are identical as well. I have also been looking art my sealed carded Urko and Ursus figures this morning and the bandoliers and knives on those look identical as well.

[megoapesnut]

The set of Cipsa'a that I had all had differences in the vinyl used for the heads in comparison to the regular Mego apes. The Cipsa vinyl had an almost transparent waxy look to it. The base vinyl colour just didn't seem as dense as the Mego heads.

That I have not seen. All of my CIPSA heads look identical to my Mego heads. I haven't pulled any out of the bodies to check the plugs though

[piecemaker]

I pulled my CIPSA Ursus down from the shelf and my boxed Mego Ursus from another shelf and studied the bandoliers. I am certain, as much as anyone can reasonably be certain, that the CIPSA Ursus has a genuine CIPSA bandolier as I opened it from a sealed plastic bag of accessories that I purchased from Arturo. I also find it hard to believe that my boxed Mego Ursus was removed from the box and a CIPSA bandolier put on it as that would be highly unlikely and I purchased it from a very reliable seller who does not collect or deal in the foreign figures. So I personally believe the one to be CIPSA and the other to be Mego without a shadow of a doubt. AND...drum roll please...

They are exactly the same in style, design and color. There are no differences that I can detect whatsoever. The bandolier that is sealed inside my CIPSA Urko and Ursus boxed figures also both look identical to the Mego (from what I can tell inside the plastic). So my conclusion is that they are the same. There might have been slight color variations at one point or another, but I am believing that Mego supplied CIPSA with the heads, knives and bandoliers. Somehow CIPSA got a Mego rifle mold with no checkering on the grip and no "bolts" on the handle and they didn't bother to take the Mego copyright off the mold, like they did with the bodies - or Mego supplied them with the rifles as well from a slightly different mold.

Here is a comparison pic. Sorry it is so crappy. I was to tired to get out my flash head. Hopefully I will get time to do that over the weekend and I will post better pics


http://www.megocipsa.com/ftpimages/belts.jpg

Yeah the bandoliers do look pretty much identical from what i can tell from your pics.I thought i saw a small difference in them but i think thats caused by the pics being taken seperately,instead of one pic with both belts in it.You still have the rifle that was in the sealed bag you took the bandolier out of? It would be nice to have a pic of a pristine example of the CIPSA rifle.

[English Paul]

That I have not seen. All of my CIPSA heads look identical to my Mego heads. I haven't pulled any out of the bodies to check the plugs though

I noticed it most when comparing the Galen/Cornelius heads and Dr Zaius.

Get the Mego and Cipsa equivalents side by side and i'm sure you'll see what I mean. Remember, it's not the moulds you are looking at, but the actual vinyl itself.

[cjefferys]

It's true, side by side, I can definitely see a difference in the Zaius and Corny heads, especially Corny, "transparent and waxy" is a good description. I don't see much of a difference in the Ursus heads though.