I compared my MEGO Urko with the Cipsa Urko,there does seem to be a different look in the vinyls.The trademarks are different also,i dont know if that means anything or not.
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While looking at those two Urko heads i noticed the trademark info was different.Does anyone know why this first head doesn't have the "APJAC" part of the trademark on it?Comment
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I seem to recall all the Cipsa heads having a different trademark info."I should say I`m very much cleverer than any of the people who put me here. As a matter of fact, I could leave any time I wanted. It`s only a doll`s house after all. Anyway, I don`t mind. I like dolls" - The Mad Hatter, Arkham Asylum.Comment
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I hope you get a definitive answer because I also have a Mego Urko with the "20th Century Fox" copyright and no mention of APJAC (and I also have a Mego Urko that has the same APJAC/Fox copyright as your Cipsa)...
My guess is that it has to do with the fact that Urko was a character entirely "owned" by Fox... By that I mean the other apes had been used in the films which had been APJAC productions, but Urko was created solely for the TV series which had no input by APJAC, as Arthur had died by that point and Ms. Trundy (Jacobs) sold APES to Fox... APJAC had nothing to do with the series, nor did they create any new characters so "maybe" Mego corrected the copyright to go along with this?Comment
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I hope you get a definitive answer because I also have a Mego Urko with the "20th Century Fox" copyright and no mention of APJAC (and I also have a Mego Urko that has the same APJAC/Fox copyright as your Cipsa)...
My guess is that it has to do with the fact that Urko was a character entirely "owned" by Fox... By that I mean the other apes had been used in the films which had been APJAC productions, but Urko was created solely for the TV series which had no input by APJAC, as Arthur had died by that point and Ms. Trundy (Jacobs) sold APES to Fox... APJAC had nothing to do with the series, nor did they create any new characters so "maybe" Mego corrected the copyright to go along with this?Last edited by piecemaker; Mar 14, '10, 3:47 PM.Comment
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That makes sense. I just checked through my CIPSA and Mego figures and here is what I found. My Mego and CIPSA Ursus figures all have the APJAC copyright. The CIPSA Cornelius and Zaius have that as well. Both CIPSA Bill figures I have do not, they start with 1974. Both of my CIPSA Urkos start with 1974 and My Mego Urko starts with APJAC, although he is a boxed figure and would have been produced before 1974 and the second issue card. All of my other Urkos are sealed on cards so I can't check those. I have a loose Burke and Verdon and they do not start with APJAC either, although the copyright looks different than any of the others. So...as I am thinking that all of the CIPSA figures were produced after 1974, assuming we are correct with that info, that is a little puzzling that some of the heads say APJAC and some do not. Unless we go back to the theory that Mego supplied the molds to CIPSA and maybe gave them some old ones? And for some reason CIPSA did not scrub the copyright info off as they did with the body molds. Or, it could be that Mego supplied CIPSA with the produced heads and gave them some old ones with the old copyright info that had not been destroyed?Comment
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Here is one question we can put to rest. I realized that I had another source for CIPSA rifles. I got the accessories out of my CIPSA treehouse and all three of them match what we have concluded to be the CIPSA rifle. No checkering on the grip or bolts on the handle.
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That makes sense. I just checked through my CIPSA and Mego figures and here is what I found. My Mego and CIPSA Ursus figures all have the APJAC copyright. The CIPSA Cornelius and Zaius have that as well. Both CIPSA Bill figures I have do not, they start with 1974. Both of my CIPSA Urkos start with 1974 and My Mego Urko starts with APJAC, although he is a boxed figure and would have been produced before 1974 and the second issue card. All of my other Urkos are sealed on cards so I can't check those. I have a loose Burke and Verdon and they do not start with APJAC either, although the copyright looks different than any of the others. So...as I am thinking that all of the CIPSA figures were produced after 1974, assuming we are correct with that info, that is a little puzzling that some of the heads say APJAC and some do not. Unless we go back to the theory that Mego supplied the molds to CIPSA and maybe gave them some old ones? And for some reason CIPSA did not scrub the copyright info off as they did with the body molds. Or, it could be that Mego supplied CIPSA with the produced heads and gave them some old ones with the old copyright info that had not been destroyed?Comment
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Here is one question we can put to rest. I realized that I had another source for CIPSA rifles. I got the accessories out of my CIPSA treehouse and all three of them match what we have concluded to be the CIPSA rifle. No checkering on the grip or bolts on the handle.
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That makes sense. I just checked through my CIPSA and Mego figures and here is what I found. My Mego and CIPSA Ursus figures all have the APJAC copyright. The CIPSA Cornelius and Zaius have that as well. Both CIPSA Bill figures I have do not, they start with 1974. Both of my CIPSA Urkos start with 1974 and My Mego Urko starts with APJAC, although he is a boxed figure and would have been produced before 1974 and the second issue card. All of my other Urkos are sealed on cards so I can't check those. I have a loose Burke and Verdon and they do not start with APJAC either, although the copyright looks different than any of the others. So...as I am thinking that all of the CIPSA figures were produced after 1974, assuming we are correct with that info, that is a little puzzling that some of the heads say APJAC and some do not. Unless we go back to the theory that Mego supplied the molds to CIPSA and maybe gave them some old ones? And for some reason CIPSA did not scrub the copyright info off as they did with the body molds. Or, it could be that Mego supplied CIPSA with the produced heads and gave them some old ones with the old copyright info that had not been destroyed?Comment
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Both of my Virdon figures have the copyright show at the left. Both of my CIPSA Bill figures look more like the right, although the writing is a bit smaller.Comment
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