I finally seen The Black Knight yesterday.

[Mikey]

Yea, I know ... i'm a little late ... but better late then never

Ok, what did I think of it ?
Not bad (actually a pretty good score for me) but in my book it does have some flaws and IMO doesn't deserve all the acclaim it recieves.

Some good points ......
A good story
good acting

Some bad points (note: bad points list is longer because i'm trying to analyze it from this side).

1. Batman and Bruce Wayne ....... I don't like this guy ... Yes, he's our hero, but he's not a likable person ...
I can never understand how newer versions of Batman are so popular considering how unlikable he is ... Is it today's society of loving ******s as their heroes ? ...

1-B. There really isn't anyone in this movie that I cared about ... I couldn't care less if any of them die.

2. Joker ...... Strangley, I do like this Joker ..... The only probablem with this version of Joker is he's not really A Joker .... Not counting the suit and make-up he's just an ordinary nut job .......... I want more of a crazy clown connection ...

3. Harvey's girlfriend ........ I don't believe Harvey would be in love with this woman ... He could get any chick he wants ..
number one, she's isn't all that pretty.
Harvey could do a lot better.

4. Gordon ... Does anyone else think this actor just don't look the part of Gordon ?

5. Story --- The story was good, but it was a little hard to follow (some individual parts)...

6. Gadgets ........ Batman IS gadgets, I understand that but this leaves me with a question ........ The same people here who put down the classic Bonds because of too much use of gadgets LOVE this movie ... I don't understand.

7. The Batpod (motorcycle) .......... This thing would not work in the city .... It would take you 2 miles of curve just to turn 90 degrees.
The fat front tire looks cool but is totally impractical.
Was this thing designed by Fisher-Price ?

Just some observations.

Feel free to challenge

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[jds1911a1]

I like Gary Oldman as Gordon but only as it relates to the BATMAN YEAR ONE comic the new series is so based in

[ctc]

>he's not really A Joker .... Not counting the suit and make-up he's just an ordinary nut job .......... I want more of a crazy clown connection ...

That's how I felt about Nickolson's Joker as well. I'd love to see someone play him like the old Caesar Romero Joker, but in more consequential and dangerous situations.

>Batman IS gadgets,

This was the point that killed it for a friend of mine; that Batman in this film was all about gadgets, and didn't really achieve anything of his own accord.

>The Batpod (motorcycle) .......... This thing would not work in the city

It worked pretty good in the old Judge Dredd comic....

Don C.

[The Toyroom]

4. Gordon ... Does anyone else think this actor just don't look the part of Gordon ?

Actually, he's pretty spot-on to the young Lt. Gordon who was featured in "Batman:Year One". If you're comparing him to the older comic book Commissioner or the TV doofus portrayed by Neil Hamilton I can see your confusion.

[kingdom warrior]

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1. Batman and Bruce Wayne ....... I don't like this guy ... Yes, he's our hero, but he's not a likable person ...
I can never understand how newer versions of Batman are so popular considering how unlikable he is ... Is it today's society of loving ******s as their heroes ? ...

A: Bruce is in Character as an Unlikeable rich spoiled Socialite. This way there is no association with him and Batman.....

1-B. There really isn't anyone in this movie that I cared about ... I couldn't care less if any of them die.

A:Morgan Freeman's Character Lucious is my favorite they way they added him as basically Bruce Wayne's Q.

2. Joker ...... Strangley, I do like this Joker ..... The only probablem with this version of Joker is he's not really A Joker .... Not counting the suit and make-up he's just an ordinary nut job .......... I want more of a crazy clown connection ...

A: There really is no definitive Joker as over the years every generation has had their version. 60's Joker Although IMO is the Best.

3. Harvey's girlfriend ........ I don't believe Harvey would be in love with this woman ... He could get any chick he wants ..
number one, she's isn't all that pretty.

A: This is Just in the casting Rachel character was very pretty in the first movie. Katie Holmes is hard act to follow in the looks dept. This rachel was the better Actress.


4. Gordon ... Does anyone else think this actor just don't look the part of Gordon ?

A: Yes he's Dead on to The Comicbook. best version


5. Gadgets ........ Batman IS gadgets, I understand that but this leaves me with a question .......

A: I think sometimes the gadgets become too over the top in Batman movies. I think they did a good balance in focusing on story and not overblown gadget use.

6.. The Batpod (motorcycle) .......... This thing would not work in the city .... It would take you 2 miles of curve just to turn 90 degrees.
The fat front tire looks cool but is totally impractical.
Was this thing designed by Fisher-Price ?

A: Sell Toys,Toys and More Toys

Glad to see you gave it a try. From what i understand I know you're a Fan of the Classic TV Batman

[goldenryan]

it's no use t1k complains about everything.

[SUP-Ronin]

Also with the motorcycle, remember that foremost it is part of the batmobile, and the fact that it can "transform" part of it self into the motorcycle is just a bonus or secondary function using batmobile parts. On it's own, the batcycle would probably have looked different, and more sleek. I agree with you're comment about the turning radius.
No problems with Gorden.
I loved this interpretation of the Joker.
Batman is still just a human, he needs the gadgets, Seems like they took a bit more of a "How would this work if it really existed" point of view.
I dig Michael Caine, as Alfred, and Morgan Freeman.
Dent did a good job, but I agree, I didn't really give a crud about him.
I just don't care for Maggie Jyllenhall, why didn't they keep Katy Holmes?? I forget, cause Tom was shooting someplace else and wouldnt' let her??

Overall I can easily forgive the small things with this movie, considering how badly they can screw something like this up. I am pretty excited about this version of Bats and look forward to more.

[Mikey]

I also thought his cowl looked weird.

There were many scenes that looked like it was on crooked.

It also looked too big and bulbus on the head.

I think this was the "new designed" one that was suppose to be part helmet.

[goldenryan]

as much as i loved the dark knight i like the tv, and even the 1989 batmobile alot better than the batmobile in this movie.

[toys2cool]

I thought the same thing about the chick