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    Bat Darklord...you are gonna LOVE this!!!

    Monday Movie Buzz: Bale's Batman voice too much?

    Monday August 4 10:00 AM ET

    Though "The Dark Knight" has been a bona fide cultural event, boasting rave reviews and boffo box office, it hasn't been immune to criticism. Some have quibbled with its political undercurrents, and others have criticized a muddled theme.

    But here's the critique most widely held: Why does Batman talk like the offspring of Clint Eastwood and a grizzly bear?

    Donning the costume for the second time, Christian Bale has delved deeper into the lower registers. As Bruce Wayne, his voice is as smooth as his finely pressed suits. But once he puts the cape on, the transformation of his vocal chords is just as dramatic as his costume change.

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    Particularly when his rage boils over, Bale's Batman growls in an almost beastly fashion, reflecting how close he teeters between do-gooder and vengeance-crazed crusader.

    "The Dark Knight" hauled in $43.8 million to rank as Hollywood's top movie for the third straight weekend, fending off "The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor" which opened a close second with $42.5 million. It has earned $394.9 million in just 17 days, according to studio estimates Sunday.

    Though much of the voice effect is Bale's own doing, under the guidance of director Christopher Nolan and supervising sound editor Richard King, the frequency of his Batman voice was modulated to exaggerate the effect.

    Critics and fans have noticed.

    "His Batman rasps his lines in a voice that's deeper and hammier than ever," said NPR's David Edelstein.

    The New Yorker's David Denby praised the urgency of Bale's Batman, but lamented that he "delivers his lines in a hoarse voice with an unvarying inflection."

    Reviewing the film for MSNBC, Alonso Duralde wrote that Bale's Batman in "Batman Begins" "sounded absurdly deep, like a 10-year-old putting on an `adult' voice to make prank phone calls. This time, Bale affects an eerie rasp, somewhat akin to Brenda Vaccaro doing a Miles Davis impression."

    Before the similes run too far afield, it's worth considering where the concept of a throaty Batman comes from.

    In his portrayal on the `60s "Batman" TV series, Adam West didn't alter his voice between Bruce Wayne and Batman. Decades later when Tim Burton brought "Batman" to the big screen in a much darker incarnation, Michael Keaton's inflection was notably but not considerably different from one to the other.

    But it was a lesser-known actor who, a few years after Burton's film, made perhaps the most distinct imprint on Batman's voice. Kevin Conroy, as the voice of the animated Batman in various projects from 1992's "Batman: The Animated Series" right up until this year's "Batman: Gotham Knight," brought a darker, raspier vocalization to Batman.

    Conroy has inhabit the role longer than anyone else and though animated voice-over work doesn't have the same cachet as feature film acting, there are quarters where Conroy is viewed as the best Batman of them all certainly superior to Val Kilmer or George Clooney.

    The animated series are notable because they drew on the DC Comics of Batman as envisioned by Frank Miller, whose work heavily informs "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight." (Bale and Nolan were unavailable to comment for this story.)

    As Batman has gotten darker, his voice has gotten deeper. As some critics suggest, Bale and "The Dark Knight" may have reached a threshold, at least audibly.


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    A "Brenda Vacarro" reference?
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    When I .... how do you say (?) .... think of my mindframe on this spaceplane, I'm Skywalker with my X-Wing like I was when I was a kid.

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    This time, Bale affects an eerie rasp, somewhat akin to Brenda Vaccaro doing a Miles Davis impression

    That sounds like something Dennis Miller would say
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    I saw DK the second time with my friend Bobby, the first Saturday it was out. Just late last week he told me his one minor gripe was Bale overdid the Bat-voice. I told him he wasn't alone, and several folks online felt the same.

    Again, it didn't really bother me at all, and I don't think he changed it up much from Begins. I need to watch the two back-to-back to be sure. The only place I thought it seemed very forced was at the end, right after the action climax with the Joker. When he's yelling at the Joker, the voice seems very exaggerated. But on that second viewing, I noticed he winced in pain and breathed heavily, indicating he was catching his breath and projecting. Not saying it wasn't still a bit forced, but it made sense at least.

    Either way, I bet there is enough buzz that Bales dials it back again if he plays the role again.

    It's probably a back-handed compliment that folks are nit-picking something in a movie. At least people care enough to think about it beyond the theater.


    Oh and one more thing:
    The animated series are notable because they drew on the DC Comics of Batman as envisioned by Frank Miller, whose work heavily informs "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight."
    I will agree that "Begins" and "Dark Knight' borrowed elements from Miller's Batman, but BTAS drew far more from the Batman comics of the 70s by O'Neil, Adams, Englehart, Rogers and their contemporaries than it did Frank Miller. Mainstream media likes to make like Batman was still doing the Bat-tusi in comics until Miller rode to the rescue.

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    The only time the voice really bothered me is when Batman is talking like that to Morgan Freeman's character. Why??? Lucius Fox already knows who he is. Why does Bruce Wayne keep talking like that to Fox???

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    The only time the voice really bothered me is when Batman is talking like that to Morgan Freeman's character. Why??? Lucius Fox already knows who he is. Why does Bruce Wayne keep talking like that to Fox???
    I think Bale has a rule for the character where, if he's in the costume, he uses the voice. The depth and "rage" of the voice varies on whether he's talking to a friend or foe.

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    He probably does it because the batsuit is crushing his nuts and the cowl is pressing on his nasal passages in such a way that he just can't help it.



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    He probably does it because the batsuit is crushing his nuts and the cowl is pressing on his nasal passages in such a way that he just can't help it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    He probably does it because the batsuit is crushing his nuts and the cowl is pressing on his nasal passages in such a way that he just can't help it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    He probably does it because the batsuit is crushing his nuts and the cowl is pressing on his nasal passages in such a way that he just can't help it.
    lmao!! i would'nt doubt it,look how tight that thing is
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