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Thread: Mego reveals from tonight's live chat

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    Quote Originally Posted by monitor_ep View Post
    I never understood why Lady Frankenstein was done in white when the Monster was in green. If I find one I am going to make DC Comics Lady Frankenstein:
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    The Monster was supposed to be a sickly pale/tallow color. Dracula too was supposed to have a very pale, deathly white color. Some of the Frankenstein (and Dracula) marketing material incorrectly portrayed them as green, because thatís the color the makeup (grease paint) had to be in order to produce the white/grey/tallow looks the director(s) were going going for.

    For Frankensteinís monster the association with green never really went away, thanks in large part to the Munsters. Dracula at least, thankfully, was able to escape relatively unscathed, despite some of the early marketing material portraying him as a hideous green monster.

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    The color test footage for Son of Frankenstein shows the monster with a greenish tint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phil View Post
    The color test footage for Son of Frankenstein shows the monster with a greenish tint.
    The monster's make up was always green. The green make up gave him a corpse like pallor on B&W film and by Bride the monster was intended to be green.
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    You are a bold and courageous person, afraid of nothing. High on a hill top near your home, there stands a dilapidated old mansion. Some say the place is haunted, but you don't believe in such myths. One dark and stormy night, a light appears in the topmost window in the tower of the old house. You decide to investigate... and you never return...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Werewolf View Post
    The monster's make up was always green. The green make up gave him a corpse like pallor on B&W film and by Bride the monster was intended to be green.
    Universal was contemplating doing Son of Frankenstein in color. The test footage was intended to be in color.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderbolt View Post
    Universal was contemplating doing Son of Frankenstein in color. The test footage was intended to be in color.
    The ďtest footageĒ you guys are referring to was actually home video footage, not screen tests. Any footage shot in technicolor, if it even survives (which is doubtful), still remains to be discovered.

    Thereís lots of material out there on the makeup techniques used during the silent and early black and white era, and lots of articles specifically about why Frankensteinís monster was green.



    https://www.domestika.org/en/blog/53...r-turned-green

    https://silentology.wordpress.com/20...t-really-like/

    https://aminoapps.com/c/monsters-fac...VPZ3d6qx8mXN7W

    Thereís no argument from me about his color now. He is clearly green and has been for decades. He just didnít start out that way.

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    Universal shot color film footage as a test of Karloff in make up as the Monster. Early planning for Son of Frankenstein was to film it in Technicolor. About a minute of footage exists and has appeared in various things and has been posted on YouTube and I am sure other places.
    Last edited by phil; Jan 20, '21 at 3:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phil View Post
    Universal shot color film footage as a test of Karloff in make up as the Monster. Early planning for Son of Frankenstein was to film it in Technicolor. About a minute of footage exists and has appeared in various things and has been posted on YouTube and I am sure other places.
    As I said in my previous post, the footage you’re referring to was from private home video (Karloff’s home movie collection, to be exact), not technicolor footage shot by Universal. These kinds of home videos are fairly common. There are some good examples of this in Warner’s extras on the 2-disc special edition of the Adventures of Robin Hood, as well as on the Star Trek TOS Blu Ray editions.

    No footage from Universal’s technicolor footage for Son of Frankenstein has been released to the public, if it even exists. Claims to the contrary are erroneous, unfortunately.

    It’s a moot point, anyway. No one is arguing the monster isn’t green now. The argument is simply that he didn’t start that way.
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    Its an argument because you keep beating a dead horse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderbolt View Post
    Its an argument because you keep beating a dead horse.
    I think you’ve misunderstood my use of the term “argument”. I’m not referring to argument as a heated disagreement, but argument as a logical reason given for or against a matter under discussion. I wasn’t aware anyone considered this discussion to be an example of the former. Nor was I under the impression that a discussion that is about a half a page’s worth had suddenly and unexpectedly veered into dead horse territory. Thank you for letting me know. I will step aside out of respect for a fine horse who sadly and unexpectedly met his end.

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    Sarah is someone I have gotten to know quite well over the past 25 years during her convention runs here in Louisville. We've sat over many a candid discussion about life and some that involved her dad's work. Wonderfest was the first to reveal the monster in color to the public before it was released on home video format for the rest of the world to see.

    At the time we were entrusted with the enormous responsibility of holding all of that raw home video footage to show just the portions of Boris in costume to those who attended the convention. I can assure everyone, what is public is just excerpts from what is otherwise a very personal log of a standard day-in-the-life for Boris. His love for his daughter is really something to behold here and the monster footage contextualized is nothing more than a kind of "dad at work" moment thrown in for his daughter to have.

    It is accurate that Son of Frankenstein was initially considered as a Technicolor feature before filming started. But those considerations did not coincide with this footage. I think that was one of the first questions we asked Sarah who clearly would not have her own memory of that since she was a newborn. But she indicates everything her dad told her suggests this was a regular work day in filming. So what you see is how he was prepped for the movie we have. If any suggested test footage exists, it has never been released by the studio.

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