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Thread: Wonder Woman 1984 will be released in both theaters and HBO Max

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    I fully understand the dilemma (entrenched within it myself) however reinvention is inevitable and this should shock no one, as the division between TV and everything else has been blurred for years on the path to full chimera. WB, 17 movies… if that's the perceived tipping point, I don't think people have been paying attention.

    Like many, I love and support the art of film, but am well aware that most studios/giant-media-corps alike largely abandoned direct financing of creative quality a long time ago. One result (of many) is that we are inundated with terrible to mediocre product built on shareholder producers and amortized distribution. Bad product can make money as long as they cheaply acquired and/or made, and even sometimes when they are not with international options. If you scroll through the countless entries on Netflix or Prime long enough you'll find thousands of examples of this model, many of which are newer movies… filler of epic proportion. While this presents new opportunity for the small studio or indie filmmaker, something worthy of your time/support is also now lost in a sea of awful.

    Which loops me back around to movie theaters who have been late to embrace innovation and remain relevant to their patrons. The mostly recent transitions to comfort seating, better and diverse A/V systems, larger choice of concessions, events such hosting film talks/discussion, and affordable renting of theaters for private screenings have all appeared within the rebirth of indie theaters over the past 20 years. This all coincides with the ability to and popularity of building your own in home theater on DVDs and fast broadband.

    Celebrity and media consumption is the 21 C pop culture, sadly, but inside of this I think we lose sight that if a quality (or even with just some appreciated qualities) product is made available in a fun, comfortable, safe, and unique environment audiences can be nurtured. Movie theaters (owner/companies as well as operators) need to understand this transition from a buyer/consumer/PoP model to one that is rooted in the patronage/fandom of place (what we in the arts refer to as creative placemaking). If you don't like the future-now, look to the past… the long-running heyday of western cinema is filled with full days/weekends of activity… entertainment, education, live interaction, and unique (cornerstone architecture) fun building a community center point, rather than what we know as the contemporary corporate theater, shopping mall, generic suburban park, etc.
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    WB's announcement is pretty shocking, and potentially damaging. I can definitely understand those working in the cinema industry not being happy about this. I get putting out WW84 on HBO Max, knee deep in the pandemic, with numbers rising. But with vaccines on the way and looking to be fully distributed by summer of 2021, it seems rash to jump up and say "Everything's on HBO Max next year too!". I think the studios are playing chicken with one another, and WB was the first one to drive through while the rest steered away.

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    I understand people being upset, but honestly this has been coming for a long time, even before the pandemic. As home theatre becomes more and more popular, with bigger and bigger TVs and Blu-ray, my moviegoing had already seen a major decline.

    The closest decent theatre to me is a good 45 minutes away, plus when you factor in the high cost of tickets, and new assigned seating policies, forget it. I don't need to drive nearly two hours, spend almost $50 on tickets and concessions, then be told where I'm going to sit in order to watch a movie. I'll just wait three months, spend $20 on the Blu-ray and plop down in front of my 75 inch screen and enjoy myself a hell of a lot more. No people talking, no screaming kids, and half the price? No wonder theatres are folding.

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    My brother wanted to go to a theater that was really upgraded so the four us went. The food court was amazing, you can order a whole pizza. We sat in the balcony section with assigned seats that we picked out. Going in I was thinking this was going to be great. When the movie started I discovered the problem. The balcony had waiters, they would keep coming to you to place your order or to get refills. Then walk in front of you while the movie was on, it was so distracting. I decided I was not going back there,
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    Quote Originally Posted by alex View Post
    I cant see how movies coming out on this type of platform will make money, its going to be straight U know where for free, before hand U had to wait around for a decent copy, and now its instant.
    it brings in more subscribers and probably takes some away from Netflix or Disney plus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enyawd72 View Post
    I understand people being upset, but honestly this has been coming for a long time, even before the pandemic. As home theatre becomes more and more popular, with bigger and bigger TVs and Blu-ray, my moviegoing had already seen a major decline.

    The closest decent theatre to me is a good 45 minutes away, plus when you factor in the high cost of tickets, and new assigned seating policies, forget it. I don't need to drive nearly two hours, spend almost $50 on tickets and concessions, then be told where I'm going to sit in order to watch a movie. I'll just wait three months, spend $20 on the Blu-ray and plop down in front of my 75 inch screen and enjoy myself a hell of a lot more. No people talking, no screaming kids, and half the price? No wonder theatres are folding.
    Yup, agreed.

    I feel for the movie theater employees, I really do. Like our friend here, Goblin19.

    But itís the sign of the times. It was bound to happened anyway, but the pandemic has accelerated the process.

    The technology just caught up to the point where our home theater systems rivals some small theaters. We all have the giant flatscreens, the surround sound systems, the Blu-rays, the streaming, etc. And now that WB announced huge big budget films (initially intended for the theaters) are now coming to our homes, well, things are looking rather bleak for movie theaters, at least for the time being.

    Yes, I still miss the big movie theater experience. Itís nostalgic. It brings back great memories. Going with friends and family is cool. Yes, itís expensive. Yes, the concession stand goodies are ridiculously overpriced. The stale popcorn, the flat sodas, the $10 candy boxes that you can get at the Dollar Store for, well, a dollar, lol. My go to movie theater has a full bar, I love their Long Island ice teas, ha. Yeah, itís a love/hate relationship thing. But I still want to eventually go back to movie theaters. But right now itís a no-no, not during the pandemic. We have an elderly and very fragile mother. Iím doing everything not to get her infected. I donít want to pass it to her. I think movie theaters can still survive though. Hereís an interesting article on the subject...

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/wh...mic-2020-10-30

    We just have to be patient during these tough times.

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    I really enjoy going to a movie theater to watch a movie. My home experience is good, TV and sound wise, but being able to just check out and sit and watch the movie is awesome for me. If I'm home, distractions abound. I really enjoy seeing older movies at the theater as well. Being able to watch Jaws and Back to the Future and many others at the theater is amazing, and I wish they would be able to do that more as well but that seems like a dream now.

    Regarding streaming, I think if something comes in people want to watch, such as the new Wonder Woman, they will subscribe to the streaming service, watch it and then drop the service I bet. I have HBO Max, and have watched a few things on it, but if I didn't have it for free I wouldn't subscribe to it I think.

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    things i don't like about going to the movies, people lighting up and checking their phones, some scenes look too dark and hard to make out, figuring a good time to take a bathroom break and not block the screen from people behind you. I hate commercials now you see in the movies and biggest thing for me is the looonnnggg run of previews. also back in the day when you go to the movies you were seeing things like special effect you would never see on television.TV has finally caught up with that part. but at home you get distracted like the phone ringing or something.

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