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  • Nostalgiabuff
    Muddling through
    • Oct 4, 2008
    • 11285

    #16
    Originally posted by PNGwynne
    Identity Crisis? That was the book that made me give up comics. Awful.
    seems like that storyline might be what the Arrowverse is now going to build up to with the introduction of Sue Dibney tis past week

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    • Nostalgiabuff
      Muddling through
      • Oct 4, 2008
      • 11285

      #17
      Originally posted by johnnystorm
      I would not be surprised to see Geoff Johns given some sort of overseer role similar to Kevin Feige's at Marvel. Someone calling the shots to coordinate the comics, tv, and movies. Something Marvel is obviously very good at, and DC notoriously bad.
      And something Didio never seemed to get a handle on. Looking at what was successful in DC projects and continuing or capitalizing in that direction. His constant attempts to reinvent the wheel only polarized and alienated the readership.
      wasn't it announced that JJ Abrams was in charge of the movie universe going forward?

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      • thunderbolt
        Hi Ernie!!!
        • Feb 15, 2004
        • 34211

        #18
        Originally posted by Nostalgiabuff
        wasn't it announced that JJ Abrams was in charge of the movie universe going forward?
        Yeah along with James Gunn, which would be great to see a whole universe thru Gunn
        You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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        • knight errant00
          8 Inch Action Figure
          • Nov 15, 2005
          • 1766

          #19
          Interesting thoughts on this from one of DC's former creatives, Ethan Van Sciver:



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          • PNGwynne
            Master of Fowl Play
            • Jun 5, 2008
            • 19432

            #20
            I can't take 2 hours and 18 minutes of Scriver.
            WANTED: Dick Grayson SI trousers; gray AJ Mustang horse; vintage RC Batman (Bruce Wayne) head; minty Wolfman tights; mint Black Knight sword; minty Launcelot boots; Lion Rock (pale) Dracula & Mummy heads; Lion Rock Franky squared boots; Wayne Foundation blue furniture; Flash Gordon/Ming (10") unbroken holsters; CHiPs gloved arms; POTA T2 tan body; CTVT/vintage Friar Tuck robes, BBP TZ Burgess Meredith glasses.

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            • B-Lister
              Eccentric Weirdo
              • Mar 19, 2010
              • 2914

              #21
              He drove me away from DC. Gonna take a lot to bring me back.
              Looking for Green Arrow accessories, Doctor Who Sonic Screwdriver, and Japanese Popy Megos (Battle Cossack and France, Battle of the Planets, Kamen Rider, Ultraman) and World Heroes figures

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              • Blue Meanie
                Banned
                • Jun 23, 2001
                • 8706

                #22
                I'd LOVE!!!! to see Jim Shooter take over at DC. I think he is EXACTLY what DC needs. Good old kick in the you know what's. But knowing the way things are today...nobody wants to pay someone like Shooter and nobody wants to actually listen to someone who knows what the hell he is doing when it comes to comic books. What is the old saying...Fake it until you make it. Except DC may be done. I'm a DC reader and collector and have been since I was about 7 years old (50 now) and I have NEVER seen them this messed up as to what to do to right the ship. Very sad situation right now.

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                • Mego Milk
                  Custom Mego Maker
                  • Jun 3, 2007
                  • 2842

                  #23
                  Here are some DC Comics by Famous Cartoonist ART BALTAZAR...

                  Tiny Titans
                  Tiny Titans / Little Archie
                  Ambush Bug
                  Green Lantern Animated Adventures
                  Superman Family Adventures
                  Green Team
                  Super Powers
                  Superman Of Smallville
                  ArkhaManiacs

                  All the above comics were approved by Mr. DiDio.
                  He let me have SUPERMAN!!!
                  He made my career.

                  I am a big fan of Dan and I am proud to call him my friend.
                  He will bounce back. He's a brilliant and passionate man.

                  Looking forward to the future.

                  AW YEAH.
                  Last edited by Mego Milk; Feb 23, '20, 9:46 PM.

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                  • B-Lister
                    Eccentric Weirdo
                    • Mar 19, 2010
                    • 2914

                    #24
                    Originally posted by knight errant00
                    Interesting thoughts on this from one of DC's former creatives, Ethan Van Sciver:



                    https://youtu.be/y5v8NsqZsio
                    I wouldn't put much stock in what he has to say these days. He's gone quite loopy off the deep end with the comicsgate crap.

                    He's a fantastic example of squandered talent.
                    Looking for Green Arrow accessories, Doctor Who Sonic Screwdriver, and Japanese Popy Megos (Battle Cossack and France, Battle of the Planets, Kamen Rider, Ultraman) and World Heroes figures

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                    • Earth 2 Chris
                      Verbose Member
                      • Mar 7, 2004
                      • 32481

                      #25
                      I wouldn't give Van Sciver the time of day. He's deplorable.

                      Chris
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                      • Earth 2 Chris
                        Verbose Member
                        • Mar 7, 2004
                        • 32481

                        #26
                        Here are some DC Comics by Famous Cartoonist ART BALTAZAR...

                        Tiny Titans
                        Tiny Titans / Little Archie
                        Ambush Bug
                        Green Lantern Animated Adventures
                        Superman Family Adventures
                        Green Team
                        Super Powers
                        Superman Of Smallville
                        ArkhaManiacs

                        All the above comics were approved by Mr. DiDio.
                        He let me have SUPERMAN!!!
                        He made my career.

                        I am a big fan of Dan and I am proud to call him my friend.
                        He will bounce back. He's a brilliant and passionate man.

                        Looking forward to the future.

                        AW YEAH.
                        See, this is why, despite my objections to the direction DiDio took DC at times, I can't completely fault the guy. And I'm just armchair quarterbacking. You were there, Art. And my family loves your work, so kudos to Mr. DiDio for giving you a chance to share your work with the world. We are certainly better for it!

                        Chris
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                        • jacoblb
                          Persistent Member
                          • May 7, 2009
                          • 1127

                          #27
                          I don't know Dan at all but it seemed like he was a rather polarizing personality within the company. Although it's been expressed his termination was due to many editors recently leaving the company it seems like he had a lot more of that than meets the eye. I guess corporate could care less when freelancers were putting up with crap, but when it came to editors in the company charged with getting books out that crap hit the fan.

                          As with most things there's good and bad with his tenure in the company. I respected how he pushed things in ways I wouldn't have. I personally still think New 52 was a huge mistake, but it was successful so I'd be wrong. I call it New 50 ew. (I only liked Wonder Wonder's new origin.) While I didn't like all the DC titles before New 52 I thought Geoff Johns, among others, were doing tremendous work.

                          I seem to recall reading an interview from Mark Waid explaining his experience with the weekly series 52 that put Dan in bad light. (If you're reading this Mark, hello! big fan.) Plus, there was that Me Too type thing that Bleeding Cool reported Dan was having an affair with Jan Jones. What about the HR fumbling of how Brian Wood and Eddie Berganza's sexual misconduct continued, wasn't Dan around while all that was going on as well?

                          Paul Levitz's push from DC seemed, as an outsider like me, as if there was DC office power-trip ankle biting going on that had less to do with corporate WB higher ups not liking how Paul ran things and more about maybe one person trying to undermine another? Plenty of other creators have expressed poor opinions about Dan too like Chuck Dixon. I think Dixon had written he couldn't get work at DC because of Dan. Wasn't there some altercation with (R.I.P) Darwyn Cooke and Dan Didio too?

                          While I'm not personally buying comics much these days I really like some of the DC books I am borrowing from the public library whereas most of the Marvel books, save for ones by certain exclusive creators are terrible. With some exceptions I think the talent pool was overtaken on the DC side.

                          I've loved everything Bendis has done and I've not liked Superman comics as much since Rucka was writing the title monthly.

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                          • hedrap
                            Permanent Member
                            • Feb 10, 2009
                            • 4825

                            #28
                            What a lot of media-finance people have known for the past year: the merger with ATT was a bad move because of the debt accrued. One of the main VC firms has been calling for ATTWB to shed divisions that are money-losses. DC, like Marvel, have been that for 20+ years now. This is exactly what Van Sciver has been talking about. It's not bts gossip. It's been front and center for some time, and EVS has been a proponent of DiDio from the start.

                            Like Art pointed out, Didio is not a bad guy. Ironically, Art's avenue is exactly the direction DC needed to head as the larger kids market were taking hold of his work and other non-traditional DC material. But it seems like the direct market has been the tail wagging the dog, and they do not cater to anyone outside dedicated.

                            I don't know how many fields we have to see go the same path of death by drill-down. It has to be the single worse business and marketing decision of our generation and it's laying waste to everything we grew up with. For those that don't know the philosophy: an industry combs through it's demo and finds the most dedicated cluster niche. They "drill down" into that group to get every disposable dollar possible while forgoing the broader audience. In TV, people who believe in broadcasting call it narrow-casting, because it narrows the net. It gained mass popularity as a marketing tactic from the 2004 elections and was adopted across multiple industries. It's computer metrics gone insane.

                            Pro Wrestling is the ultimate example. They're down to 3 million total industry viewers, when a decade ago, they were over 6 million. They keep catering to a more and more insular group to the point where WWE is going to start selling parts of it network because they tapped the entire hardcore base and found it's too small to sustain anything. The action figure market has been on the same trajectory. The proponents like to blame market diversification, (streaming and gaming mainly), but there's enough raw data now to show that's sophistry. If you're a small business, it makes sense as you need to build an audience, but if you're a big company, it's an excuse to not fight for a larger share.

                            That's the real shame with DC. They had the path with Art's Aw Yeah, DC Superhero Girls and the Cartoon Network stuff. They had the outlet with Wal-Mart and libraries. Instead of betting heavy on that, DiDio went deep into DC arcana, reboots, and insane Tom King storylines. Whose the audience for PTSD Speedy? I haven't bought a monthy for myself in years. Why would I start with that?

                            Watch what happens if WB moves forward with DC Super Pets. It's going to do better business on all DC fronts than anything else DCWB has put out.
                            Last edited by hedrap; Feb 24, '20, 2:50 PM.

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                            • thunderbolt
                              Hi Ernie!!!
                              • Feb 15, 2004
                              • 34211

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Earth 2 Chris
                              I wouldn't give Van Sciver the time of day. He's deplorable.

                              Chris
                              nevermind it took me all of two minutes to figure out he's one of those guys.
                              Last edited by thunderbolt; Feb 24, '20, 6:17 PM.
                              You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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                              • The Bat
                                Batman Fanatic
                                • Jul 14, 2002
                                • 13412

                                #30
                                Hoping Jim Lee gets the job myself.
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