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Thread: FX's new version of "A Christmas Carol" Oh. My. God.

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    Tubi TV has the Henry Winkler version that I've been hunting for years. I'm halfway through it, think I'll be good with my pee-free version. Thanks for the warning Dwayne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palitoy View Post
    I think this whole thing does sound ghastly, can't wait to see for myself.
    I googled after this thread and it does sound miserable. But in a way more realistic.

    I think we all tend to have this romanticized view of Victorian England when in reality it was an veritable hell scape for the poor and working class. As gross as it sounds I can see someone of that era relieving themselves on a cruel man's grave as well as the language and other horrors. Life for most was absolutely miserable and the greedy and cruel rarely if ever reformed or were punished.

    But I still think the big thing the remake over looks is A Christmas Carol is fantasy. People want/need that feel good romanticized fantasy of redemption.
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    You are a bold and courageous person, afraid of nothing. High on a hill top near your home, there stands a dilapidated old mansion. Some say the place is haunted, but you don't believe in such myths. One dark and stormy night, a light appears in the topmost window in the tower of the old house. You decide to investigate... and you never return...

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    I've always thought A Christmas Carol's intent has been taken wrong for over 100 years

    It was very Orwellian with it's conformist zombification mind control themes

    Basically, be happy or you will be tortured forever

    I didn't see this remake yet but it sounds interesting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
    I've always thought A Christmas Carol's intent has been taken wrong for over 100 years

    It was very Orwellian with it's conformist zombification mind control themes

    Basically, be happy or you will be tortured forever

    I didn't see this remake yet but it sounds interesting
    I never got that message at all. It's not about being happy, but rather showing kindness, compassion, and generosity towards others.
    It's not that Scrooge is miserable, it's that he cares nothing for his fellow man.

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    I would argue that Scrooge is miserable, precisely because he doesn't care for his fellow man.

    He's reminded of a time when he did care for others and how that brought him true joy. Whereas now he THINKS he's happy with his wealth and greed, but it's not true fulfillment.

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    I think this was made for me. I love anything Victorian that has shades of life in Whitechapel.

    Outside Magoo, I can't recall another version I liked. Maybe Stewart's.

    If I was shown George C Scott's version one more time, I'd beat someone with Scrooge's cane.

    Quote Originally Posted by ODBJBG View Post
    I would argue that Scrooge is miserable, precisely because he doesn't care for his fellow man.

    He's reminded of a time when he did care for others and how that brought him true joy. Whereas now he THINKS he's happy with his wealth and greed, but it's not true fulfillment.
    That was Dickens exact point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Werewolf View Post

    I think we all tend to have this romanticized view of Victorian England when in reality it was an veritable hell scape for the poor and working class. As gross as it sounds I can see someone of that era relieving themselves on a cruel man's grave as well as the language and other horrors. Life for most was absolutely miserable and the greedy and cruel rarely if ever reformed or were punished.
    There is a really great UK series called "Year of the Rabbit" which is about a detective in Victorian London, it's a comedy but it especially revels in how gross it really was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palitoy View Post
    it's a comedy but it especially revels in how gross it really was.
    Yeah, on average, I really don't think people realize how horrific it really was. Aside from the relative opulence of the upper class, the majority lived in poverty with little food. Cities were a crowded, crime ridden, unsanitary nightmare of illness, pollution, stench and despair. At times the smoke billowing out from the factories would have looked like it was blocking out the sun. It would have seemed like an actual hell on earth.
    You are a bold and courageous person, afraid of nothing. High on a hill top near your home, there stands a dilapidated old mansion. Some say the place is haunted, but you don't believe in such myths. One dark and stormy night, a light appears in the topmost window in the tower of the old house. You decide to investigate... and you never return...

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    My favorite Scrooge take was Albert Finney's. This version sounds horrid and repulsive but I agree that is was most likely a ugly time to live in.

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    My fav versions of A Christmas Carol is THANK YOU VERY MUCH and Mr Magoo

    All other versions are BORING
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