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Thread: Star Wars Han Solo Greedo scene has been altered again, yes again, for Disney plus.

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    If they intend to release the original cuts, this is absolute genius. It brings the debate of the Lucas edits back into the public conversation and allows them to swoop in and say "the fans have spoken, and we listened."

    Also... to sorta echo Mikey... as bad as the Greedo edits are, I think the addition of Jabba may be worse.

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    where is this scene? I just watched through the segment in the cantina and did not see anything new

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    There's a lot of cringy stuff added to SW but I think Jedi actually faired the worst. Between the abomination that is Jedi Rocks, Hayden Christensen's head digitally covering Sebastian Shaw and Vader's NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!, I find it totally unwatchable. I also really miss Yub Nub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msenger76 View Post
    Every movie except star wars, people scream for years "Give us the directors cut! we need to see this vision how the director wanted it to be seen!"
    I don't, necessarily, agree with that. One that sticks out in my mind is Dracula 1979. People have been bitterly complaining about the desaturated version since it first replaced the theatrical cut on VHS in the early 90s. No one asked for or wanted the color to be drained out of the movie.

    I still have zero problems with director cuts or special editions as long as they don't replace the theatrical versions.
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    I sometimes wonder if he just fell into a puddle filled with gold with Star Wars. It seems like he’s not even really sure what made the original movie popular in the first place.
    Expectation is the death of discovery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonGhost View Post
    I sometimes wonder if he just fell into a puddle filled with gold with Star Wars. It seems like he’s not even really sure what made the original movie popular in the first place.
    I don't think so...I think it's more like an artist who's never satisfied with their own work. I'm guilty of this as well. I'll look at a model I finished and think, I should have done this, or painted this differently, and sometimes I go back and change it, even if other people are telling me it looks perfect the way it is. Sometimes the changes I make are an improvement. Sometimes they're not, and once or twice I even ruined something, only to be filled with regret for not listening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enyawd72 View Post
    I don't think so...I think it's more like an artist who's never satisfied with their own work. I'm guilty of this as well. I'll look at a model I finished and think, I should have done this, or painted this differently, and sometimes I go back and change it, even if other people are telling me it looks perfect the way it is. Sometimes the changes I make are an improvement. Sometimes they're not, and once or twice I even ruined something, only to be filled with regret for not listening.
    I get the artist being unhappy with work over time. I’m the same way as well.

    But what is the point of constantly changing the Han/Greedo scene? It’s not an improvement to make Han more of a good guy at the beginning because he’s supposed to become a hero in his story arc. It’s just weird to me that he goes out of his way to neuter his own story.

    And frankly, that’s just the tip of the iceberg for my confusion with Lucas’ actions.
    Expectation is the death of discovery.

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    I love George. I'll never begin to try to understand his genius. Just about every genius artist does something whacky or misunderstood in their career. He is no different.

    Would I like to see the originals preserved? Absolutely, I completely agree with Werewolf on that. But I've got means of watching them that look better than the Blu Rays, so I'm good if they don't.

    I truly laughed, and felt no harm or foul.

    According to EW:
    The word was apparently previously said in the series, this time with subtitles, in The Phantom Menace when Sebulba threatens young Anakin. The word may mean “This will be the end of you.”
    So... is Greedo saying "This is the end of you, Solo!". Or is Lucas cleverly saying, "This will be the end of my working on this scene". Pablo Hidalgo revealed it was done in 2012 just prior to the Disney sale of the franchise. So maybe it's a way of Lucas saying "Goodbye Star Wars. This is where we part company".

    Or maybe Greedo just has enough time to spit out one last obscenity at Solo.

    Make no mistake, I think they should never have been changed in 1997. But at this point... who has energy to be outraged by this? Frankly, I'm delighted, and sincerely so.

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    I would like to see a Star Wars Final Cut, with a bonus scene containing TIE Bombers soaring throughout the skies of several planets in the Galaxy, each ship playing an audio recording of Grand Moff Tarkin trying to get his surfboard returned to him.

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    If the original was available to all in some format, I'd never care about anything Lucas did but he forces these revisions on people and while I'm not in any way angry about this, it does feel like a really passive-aggressive move.

    I think less of a person who does this sort of thing although I don't begrudge the shelving of "the Holiday Special". I get why he's embarrassed by that.

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