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Thread: Extensions of the Universal Horror Brand

  1. #11
    who says the Fronkenshteens only had one castle?

  2. #12
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    Mar 7, 2004
    Cynthiana, KY...of Earth 2!
    I don't really enjoy the monster rally flms, but I do like A&C Meet Frankenstein. It's not a perfect film, but the monsters are treated pretty respectfully and the humor comes from the cowardly and dimwitted "boys" reacting to a sinister situation. I don't find that the monsters are the "butts" of jokes, even though the film itself is self-referential to the conventions of its own "Uni Monster" genre.

    Compared to the "House of..." films, it's a hell of a send-off and I love seeing (admittedly diminished) Lugosi again.

    "Monster Squad" (The film) I like a lot, it has a good set-up and Regehr is one of my favorite Draculas.
    Pretty much agree on everything you said there! I will say I actually liked Dracula in A&C quite a bit. He was the "evil mastermind", or "monster leader" if you will, that Dracula has been portrayed as in other media ever since, including the Monster Squad.

    And yes, Regher is one of my favorite Dracs, equal parts suave Lugosi and animalistic Christopher Lee, with his own sardonic dark humor added in. "Meeting adjourned."


  3. #13
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    May 28, 2008
    North Carolina
    No arguments here that you don't need "monster rally" films to have success. Hammer proved that, as they never crossed the different series and had very durable franchises. (The series technically crossed through the cameos of Lee as Dracula and Cushing as Baron Frankenstein in One More Time, sequel to Salt & Pepper.)

    That said, I've never had a problem with the Universal films, and I'm sure it's because they were always there from my standpoint. I remember watching them weekly on Sunday afternoons on a local station, and going from the single monster films to the team ups was something I looked forward to. Continuity was always loose, and even within the series the films don't necessarily connect (the first two Invisible Man films are directly connected, and Price appearing in Returns fits the cameo in A&C Meet Frankenstein, but beyond a few lines that are also contradicted in Invisible Woman, the rest of that series is only tied by the invisibility concept), but that might have just not been an issue for 6-7 year old me.

    For what it's worth, Universal used the Jack Pierce make up in Hellzapoppin' long before Abbott & Costello were making their comedies, and that cameo (with stuntman Dale Van Sickel as the monster) to me ties the Olsen & Johnson film into the mix (plus its sequel, Crazy House, brings in Rathbone & Bruce as Holmes & Watson). I'm just not sure what to do with Evil of Frankenstein. It looks like a not so great copy of the Universal films more than feeling like a Hammer film.
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  4. #14
    Idk, I just saw Evil of Frankenstein the other day on Sven and that makeup is no closer to the Universal makeup than the Groovie Ghoulies was. Seriously it looks like they used papier mache on a brown paper bag as the base for the mask. Rubber Halloween masks look better than that mess. I understand they only had 3 dollars in the budget for the makeup but that was soooo bad.

  5. #15
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    Feb 10, 2009
    I can't watch Evil of Frank. It's like Godzilla '98. I end up thinking more about how/why it went so wrong.

    A&C Meet Frank is better than the House movies because A&C decided to write a story. House of Frank starts off with amazing premise, but turns into this weird chapter series as it's sequenced like a serial. I don't blame the producers as production at that time was built around studio churn.

    You could do a Monsterverse today, but it would have to built around the protagonist. Universal thinks they tried it with Van Helsing, when that was just more steampunk garbage.

    Nicholson's Wolf had the perfect tone and look for a modern Monsterverse. If you haven't seen that in a while, watch it again. It's a fantastic blend of Larry Talbot and Curse of the Werewolf.

    I think the next Invisible Man will be interesting at minimum. I have a feeling it's going to cover a lot of the same ground as Hollow Man, though.

  6. #16
    Wolf was good. I plotted out where I had wanted the Dark Universe to go when the Cruisemummy came out. I never saw it after I saw a few trailers. I pictured 3 Doctors Jeckyl, Frankenstein, and Van Helsing working on some of the texts as it becomes apparent the mummy from the tomb they excavated begins hunting them as they seek to unlock its secrets that had been buried with him. Basically an in to all of the main monsters is there at the start of the film. I heard they had done something like this but I never saw it.

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