Solo A Star Wars Story - Movie Reaction

[jwyblejr]

Can any movie be thought of as a bomb any more? Sure it didn't do well at the box office,we'll just have to see how DVD sales hold up.

[Nostalgiabuff]

or, do we really know Luke is dead? I mean, yeah he disappeared like ObiWan, but wouldn't his mechanical hand have been left behind?

[Hedji]

It's not the band I hate, it's the fans.

Yes, I have never been so ashamed to be associated with a fanbase that contains some really obnoxious members. It's a minority, but... yecch.

[Makernaut]

I think that's the reason it's considered a bomb. The people who dislike the direction of Last Jedi actively boycotted the film. I was hoping they might be swayed by word of mouth, but obviously not.

You were replying to EMCE Hammer saying it was "a victim of the backlash to Last Jedi and would have been much better received if it had come out first" and I agree with you both. Also, they came out so close together that there was virtually NO time to get over the bad feelings.

I was looking at Rotten Tomatoes and the critics loved "The Last Jedi" (91%) while the audience rating was almost HALF of that score (46%). That's a big difference and at the time I was wondering why that was. Seemed like shenanigans. I really think all those people that hated TLJ just actively and purposely stayed away. For "Solo" the numbers move back toward the kind of difference you expect when looking at critic and audience scores (71% critics/65% audience).

I guess Rotten Tomatoes isn't a perfect tool to use to look for the "why", but I don't know any other aggregated set of data to look for to guess at the "whys". Box Office alone isn't telling the story, though.

[palitoy]

Yes, I have never been so ashamed to be associated with a fanbase that contains some really obnoxious members. It's a minority, but... yecch.

Yeah, I mean I realize that some people just didn't legitimately like that movie and shouldn't be lumped into things but "fan entitlement" is getting weird.

[Klosterheim]

or, do we really know Luke is dead? I mean, yeah he disappeared like ObiWan, but wouldn't his mechanical hand have been left behind?

I didn't think of that.

-but didn't Yoda take his robes with him and left his blanket?

And maybe Obi-wan just left behind his outer robe and Lightsaber.

Things that are close to a person or things that become part of that person probably can become One with The Force as well, with the Jedi.

I don't know why this ancient knowledge was not widely passed around, all the Jedi who died during the peak of The Clone Wars missed out.

-Luke as a Force Ghost is fine by me, but if he is alive that would open new possibilities, or be the first Jedi to reform into a mortal.

It could become similar to Stargate SG-1 Ascending.

[Earth 2 Chris]

Took the family to see it today. I have no idea what everyone's problem is with the movie. I thought it was solid and we all enjoyed it. To me it's a victim of the backlash to Last Jedi and would have been much better received if it had come out first.

^AGREED.

Chris

[Bruce Banner]

I don't know why this ancient knowledge was not widely passed around, all the Jedi who died during the peak of The Clone Wars missed out.

Qui-Gon first discovered the ability, but it was only Yoda and Obi-Wan who were able to perfect it during their periods of exile after the Clone Wars. (And evidently Anakin, as we saw at the end of ROTJ).
I have absolutely no doubt that Luke also mastered the technique, perhaps to an even more powerful degree than Yoda and Obi-Wan did.
Luke simply must return as a Force Spirit in Episode IX.

[Klosterheim]

Qui-Gon first discovered the ability, but it was only Yoda and Obi-Wan who were able to perfect it during their periods of exile after the Clone Wars. (And evidently Anakin, as we saw at the end of ROTJ).
I have absolutely no doubt that Luke also mastered the technique, perhaps to an even more powerful degree than Yoda and Obi-Wan did.
Luke simply must return as a Force Spirit in Episode IX.

Ah. Yeah.

That would be really cool to have Force Spirit Luke in Star Wars: Episode IX.

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Maybe the upcoming new Jedi Knights, (since Luke won't be the last Jedi),in the near future will be trained in the video game style Force Abilities. Powers like Super Speed and Lightsaber Throwing would come in handy. There are probably a lot of Force Powers that are undiscovered that would look amazing in new Star Wars movies.

[Gorn Captain]

Finally got round to seeing this one. I was pleasantly surprised. It's a good, solid SW story. Some references to past and present, which was nice.
I like the fact that they skipped Death Stars, massive fleets in space, Jedi knights (though we got a little taste here and there). This is what we need to "fill out" the SW universe, a backbone to the "bigger issue" stories.
I wasn't impressed with the leading man (and lady). Ok, he shoots guns, jumps, and flies space ships, but I never got that "scoundrel" feeling Ford has. Never that sarcastic sense of humor. The kid just doesn't have it. I don't blame him, he's just miscast.
Luckily, the supporting cast is seasoned and up to the task, they really held it all together.
We got some good action, like the train robbery, and most characters aren't good/bad, just somewhere in between. It makes it all more real.
With all the problems during production, I must say, Ron Howard pulled it out of the fire and delivered a good SW movie. Not the best, but that's ok.
If they do move on to a sequel, it looks like Jabba is scheduled next (from the hints we got).

[Hedji]

Yesterday, while lazily discussing the film with my brother, he suggested a post credits scene with Greedo walking through Jabba's palace, past some Gamorreans and familiar denizens, and telling Jabba he'd "found the man for the job". Fan service? Maybe, but it might have helped get people excited for a sequel.

He also pointed out he'd read that when Casino Royale rebooted the Bond franchise, it made about what Solo made. A modest opening. Then they made the next one, Quantum of Solace, and it made like a billion dollars. His point was that although Solo didn't light the box office on fire, another story with these characters should be given a chance.

[Klosterheim]

I would be into a Solo with Jabba sequel.

[Nostalgiabuff]

I would also love to see a sequel. doubt it will happen though

[Makernaut]

Yesterday, while lazily discussing the film with my brother, he suggested a post credits scene with Greedo walking through Jabba's palace, past some Gamorreans and familiar denizens, and telling Jabba he'd "found the man for the job". Fan service? Maybe, but it might have helped get people excited for a sequel.

He also pointed out he'd read that when Casino Royale rebooted the Bond franchise, it made about what Solo made. A modest opening. Then they made the next one, Quantum of Solace, and it made like a billion dollars. His point was that although Solo didn't light the box office on fire, another story with these characters should be given a chance.

Those are good points and I really do hope they consider a sequel, but that seems out of the question.

I find myself being a little miffed at people who point to the relatively poor box office returns as an indicator of a this being a bad movie when they themselves have not seen it. As if box office returns are what makes a movie good or not. I can't pretend to understand the reason why it had a poor showing, but I don't think you can convince me it was because this was a bad movie because it wasn't bad, at all. I just don't think it was good enough to overcome the hard feelings it seemed to be up against and at this point, I don't know what kind of movie it would have taken to overcome that. You can read the thread(s) in anticipation of this movie's release and see it had a very steep hill to climb.

[Bruce Banner]

I enjoyed it for the most part, but a sequel is highly unlikely.
The movie allegedly lost Disney something like 80 million dollars, and that's a conservative estimate.