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Thread: Are we the unloved/forgotten generation?

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    The way I see it is this....technology is a TOOL, and that's all it should ever be. It should make things easier to do, but you should still be able to manage without it. The problem with today's generation is they rely completely on the tool, and never develop the ability to function without it.

    When you can no longer tell time without a digital clock....do math without a calculator...spell without auto-correct...or even write well enough to sign your own name, THAT'S a problem.

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    ^^ very true. unfortunately, many things are starting to be phased out of school teaching, such as being able to write in cursive. it's a scary thought if you think about the possibility of a massive power grid shutdown, similar to what happened to the east coast of USA a number of years ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by Werewolf View Post
    Preach it.

    I just got to roll my eyes at the idea Gen X doesn't get tech like Millennials. Not only did we bloody well grow up with it, we also have the understanding (and patience ) of growing up with typing out lines of commands to get a program to run and waiting for downloads on dial up. Getting a program to run wasn't easy as just tapping an icon on touch screen.
    Indeed! My main generational beef is with what I perceive as the Boomers underestimating Gen X and being enamored with the abilities of Millennials. I find it baffling. However, it does serve to make me NOT want to do the same thing by underestimating or writing off the Millennials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makernaut View Post
    Indeed, my main generational beef is with what I perceive as the Boomers underestimating Gen X and being enamored with the abilities of Millennials.
    I don't get it either. The Boomers told us we were all hateful little monsters and weren't going to amount to anything. But they absolutely adore the Millennials. Go figure. Honestly, I actually don't have a problem of Millennials as a group just the fawning and hand wringing they get from the Boomers and the media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by palitoy View Post
    My wife works in a school where half the teachers are under 30. She doesn't think they're a problem to work with but does notice some little differences like that many want praise for doing their job. They'll say stuff "Look my attendance is on time" and she'll respond "It's supposed to be".

    However, she does also praise how health conscious and environmentally concerned they are.
    I teach, and the turnover rate does mean most of my colleagues are now under 30. I definitely see the desire for praise, and I can lament where I am that they concede to it (schools in my district now offer "employee of the month" and it's for things like "always gets to work on time." Those who get there early aren't recognized because they beat the admin there.)

    Some of that generation are more environmentally aware, but that's a generalization, same as my bashing some for wanting participation trophies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falstaff13 View Post
    I teach, and the turnover rate does mean most of my colleagues are now under 30. I definitely see the desire for praise, and I can lament where I am that they concede to it (schools in my district now offer "employee of the month" and it's for things like "always gets to work on time." Those who get there early aren't recognized because they beat the admin there.)

    Some of that generation are more environmentally aware, but that's a generalization, same as my bashing some for wanting participation trophies.
    I'm seeing that "trophy for everything" practice swerving in the other direction and I find it even more alarming. For example, my niece played league softball all through elementary, middle, and jr. high school. She was on teams that won championships and never got a trophy. I asked her early on, when she was on a team that won a league championship, about her trophy. She said they didn't do trophies because it was too expensive to give everyone a trophy. I said, "But you girls actually deserve one!". So there you go, if everyone can't have one, no one can? That's even worse, as I think about it. I played Little League Baseball from Kindergarten through 8th grade. I won ONE trophy because I was on exactly ONE championship team in all those years. That ONE trophy still means a lot to me. It reminds me of a few bad teams I was on and several that were in the middle and a couple that were "oh, so close". I really don't like that these kids, those who always got trophies and those who never got them, are robbed of that sweet spot of really valuing something.

    On a positive note, though, I have seen a trend of what Boomers considered in High School the traditional signs of "ruling the roost" being democratize in a very heartening way. I have seen, in recent years, Special Needs Students getting elected Prom King/Queen, Homecoming King/Queen, Valedictorians...that kind of thing. Some Boomers really cherished that kind of status and I am sure they eye-roll at what they can imagine as being a "tarnishing" of that status. I know Gen Xers and Millennials to both be of the mind that this is a very good thing. It doesn't cheapen anything....it finally gives that kind of stuff some real meaning and I give what we'd call Generation Y a ton of credit for being "woke" enough to get that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Werewolf View Post
    I don't get it either. The Boomers told us we were all hateful little monsters and weren't going to amount to anything. But they absolutely adore the Millennials. Go figure. Honestly, I actually don't have a problem of Millennials as a group just the fawning and hand wringing they get from the Boomers and the media.
    Think of it this way: I've noticed that my parents were only a couple years before the official post-war baby boom group, I'm right at the beginning of Gen X, and my kids fall right into the very tail end of the Millennial group... So the Millennials are basically benefitting from fawning grandparents.

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    I work in a very old and traditional company that is run by 99% white men who are boomers. The HR department is reading all kinds of stories about millennials, and what they want in a workplace. As a proud gen Xer, I sit back and laugh at the boomers trying to find common ground with the millennials. And I laugh at the millennials as they hit a wall of office politics that none of their schooling prepared them for. Being in neither group allows me to sit back and enjoy the sitcom while collecting a large check.

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