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Thread: flash Season 3

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    You guys called it on Wells for sure!
    I was pretty underwhelmed by the season finale. After months of buildup, the moment arrives and is over before the credits. Then we decide to talk it out instead of fighting. Plenty of opportunities for Savitar to kill Iris and complete the plan he "spent centuries on", but then we go with yet another time meddling plot (those always work out on this show).
    Jay comes back only to (apparently) get knocked out. Wally too, but that one is to be expected. Savitar just fades away.
    The Speed Force has a problem because it's lonely I guess, and Barry just...goes. Meh.
    I have to say this whole mystical/intelligent speed force stuff annoys me. It's an unnecessary and somewhat burdensome addition to the Flash mythos. Seriously, why the need to overcomplicate the origin story is beyond me. Barry gets hit by lightning and chemicals = superspeed. Period. What is so hard for people to deal with? Why does it need all this extra stuff?

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    ^I agree with this. I HATE the speed force. It dilutes the Flash's uniqueness, and it opens the door for waaaaay too many speedsters. Also, why is the "fastest man alive" always being outrun by like, EVERYBODY else? Zoom, Reverse Flash, Kid Flash, Savitar..all faster than Barry at some point.

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    *spoilers for the finale... not that it could make it worse*

    Yes, the show didn't seem to know where to go after the big switcheroo reveal.

    Should the doc help Savitar after what he did? Nevermind... not important.
    The whole bit with the philosopher's stone and the light up to heaven... that didn't really go anywhere.
    "Tell Cisco..." No real payoff in that one either.
    All to build to that ending (aka World's Fastest Man, World's Slowest Goodbyes)... which I assume is setting us up for another "reset" once Barry emerges from the Speed Force. Which will mean *none of this* really mattered anyhow.

    Other dumbness:

    H.R. sure took a long time to die. With some medical attention, he might have even been saved. Too bad there was no way to get him to a hospital really quickly...
    Sure, Iris survived the park, but the crisis isn't over. Sativar is out there, H.R. is dead, and Caitlin is still over to the dark side... I know, let's look at future newspaper clippings!
    The Flash is faster than Superman, who as we all know is "faster than a speeding bullet"... or... maybe not.
    I was glad Cisco didn't just build the device the bad guy requested (like Team Flash did repeatedly for Zoom last season)... but apparently all this time he could have made a Speed Force Skeleton Key and instead left Jay trapped in the Speed Force? Weak.
    I actually like where they are going with Caitlin... sort of a morally grey character like Catwoman... but man, Julian just reeked of desperation. The dude is whipped.

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    Oh, exactly on point with HR dying...I said to my wife that Barry could have had him in 50 different ERs around the world in the time it took him to deliver his speech! Ditto the ending, while Barry hugs it out (with eveyone but Jay?), meanwhile the city is being destroyed. They ACTUALLY look at cars being wrecked and not one of them moves to help! Then Barry calmly continues his farewell address, while his Mommy awaits. Seriously dude, therapy would've been great. Didn't Super-Dad Joe ever take that kid for counseling? Really would have been great for him. Could have avoided all this "brother-sister-girlfriend" ickiness too.
    Oh, and I forgot to mention the TOTAL RIDICULOUSNESS of Caitlin destroying the Black Flash in ,like 2 seconds! Too bad Thawne didn't realize that when he was teamed with Captain Cold, it would have saved everyone a lot of trouble since BLACK FLASH WAS THE WHOLE REASON FOR THAWNE'S PLAN ON LEGENDS OF TOMORROW!! And why weren't the Speed Force Guards after Savitar sll season anyway? He was a time remnant. No, they ignored him...yet prior to this they were out chasing every time abberation there was.
    The writers on this show are just getting terrible. It's like they want to get it cancelled before the big screen movie comes around.
    And Julian sucks. Terrible actor, terrible character.
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    I thought it was a good finale but i agree on a lot of the quibbles you guys have (HR could have been saved, Speedforce is lame, Barry's long goodbye) and i'm sort of glad this season is over. I hope the new show runners can put the some new energy into the show, make it fun again. This season was too heavy, like "Arrow heavy" and well, it shouldn't be this dark, it's the Flash.

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    Despite the dumbness of some of the things you guys mentioned, which we all called by watching, I felt the end of Savitar was fairly satisfying. Not great, but decent. But then it was way too early, and I knew we had to have a cliffhanger.

    The sentient Speed Force is taking Mark Waid's concept too far. It was much better when it was just a "force", not a collective of prison guards, speed cops, etc. And Barry just instantly being okay with having to spend the rest of eternity there was a bit much. Why didn't Jay offer to go back? That line should have been in there.

    I think if they had built the "Speed Force needs a prisoner" angle into Savitars defeat, and had Barry RUN INTO THE SPEED FORCE, that would have made for a much better, dramatic ending. He could have even run out of his costume, leaving Wally to hold it ala Crisis, vowing to take over as The Flash. We would have ended with the same situation for next season, but a much stronger finale.

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    One of the things I miss most about this show vs. the 90's series is Barry being a forensic scientist and actually using his brain once in a while. I loved that about the 90's version. Bring back the Trickster and make Barry have to THINK to outwit his foe, not just run circles around him. Oh, and please get rid of team Flash and the three other speedsters. It's the FLASH, not Flash and Friends.

    And for crying out loud, WHY does Barry even have a secret identity when like 30 freaking people including all his enemies know who he really is?

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    Yeah, they may be setting up a partial season with Wally taking over as Flash, maybe mentored by Jay. The Bart Allen mention a few episodes ago could indicate Impulse is coming too.

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