Batman: The Killing Joke gets limited theatrical release

[Earth 2 Chris]

Unfortunately, unlike Batman and Robin, Batgirl really wasn't given a solid motivation in her debut story in 1967, and every iteration either in the comics or media has been scrambling to come up with a reason for her existence ever since.

Chris

[MIB41]

Wow... Is there anything Warner Bros won't turn into a rated R feature? It sure seems as if there is a desire to drive the comics division into a very adult driven market. To me, it gives them less dimension and exploits them in the wrong way for kids. Now I REALLY don't want to hear anyone complain about the Schumacher nipples anymore. That almost seems innocent by comparison.

[libby 1957dog]

i think batgirls been thinking about bats this way for quite a while

[sprytel]

Take a comic that is admittedly iconic, but problematic for its objectification of Batgirl. Then, instead of building her as a more three-dimensional character with her own female agency, add in a creepy relationship that reduces her to a sexual object to the male hero. It sounds almost like they were actively trying to make it worse...

[Boy_Wonder_1978]

Saw this this afternoon at home. No way was I going to pay the local cinema what they were charging to see it. I will be buying on blu ray though on the day of release (costing less than the cinema ticket). Found the first quarter a little pointless and not quite sure how to feel about the Bat romance. That aside though, once that was out of the way I thoroughly enjoyed it. Tons of Easter eggs in there.

[samurainoir]

what the writer has to say (after a rather awkward exchange at SDCC)

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/07/23/using-sex-and-pining-for-bruce-the-killing-joke-qa-from-the-san-diego-screening/

[samurainoir]

SPOILERS

The scene that has many folks upset.

[MIB41]

Dear Lord... Is this what the art-form has come to? Do the kids need to leave the room now while the adults have their "mature moment" between two people wearing costumes and capes? How ridiculous. What's next? Batman can't get it up and we get a subplot on Viagra and his desire to feel "whole" again? I think when story points starting broaching these subjects, we have to ask ourselves why we are here.

[Hector]

I'm as R-rated as they come, but that's just all kinds of wrong...

[hedrap]

Azzarello did the same crap in his Winder Woman run. Some fantastic ideas that would work as prose. But once you make it "graphic" you're swatting away a younger crowd.

[WannabeMego]

wth!!!

[Hedji]

Where's the like button for all of MIB41's posts in this thread?

I just can't get past the cheap looking animation. The whole point of Killing Joke, for me, was Brian Bolland's pretty artwork. Alan Moore's writing was, well, Alan Moore. Big Deal. But take Bolland's art out of the equation and you really have a diet soda.

[comicmike]

"Even if Azzarello disagrees with fans’ reaction or feels attacked, to be so dismissive sours the relationship that fans have with Batgirl, the filmmakers, and DC as a company."

[jimbutsu]

After watching the trailer and seeing what this looked like it *was* going to be, I couldn't wait to go see this. Now, based on what I've seen in the last couple days, I'm here at home and perfectly content to not be going anywhere.

[emeraldknight47]

Just watched said scene in question and I'm having to wonder who read the script and greenlit it. I mean, yeah, what Bruce and Babs do is for more intimated than shown, but it's still nothing, I think, that belongs in a BATMAN feature, animated or otherwise. Looks like DC/WB has decided to take the R-rating ball and run with it as far as they can before there's an outcry from both fans and parents' groups alike. I can almost guarantee you that, if this ever actually even makes it to store shelves, it'll be snapped up by people who will be hoping that WB/DC will yank it quick to avoid any further controversy and then hope to make a quick buck by reselling it on eBay and other outlets for an outrageously inflated price. If memory serves, there was some similar controversy over the "Batman Beyond: The Return of the Joker" movie a few years back and that was still only PG or PG-13....