Falcon box variations

[ignignokt]

Was the perforated hanger on WGSH boxes consistently the same size throughout their issue? I recently noticed that the hanger perforation isn't as wide on my Falcon box as it is on the others. It was sold to me as an original non repro box, but I've been finding some repros lately with the perforation.

[ignignokt]

falcon repro.jpg

I found this one on an auction. The seller states it's a reproduction. I examined mine closer last night as well. The box has a very old smell. Lots of wear marks. The cello feels and looks correct. It definitely looks aged, but the hanger isn't as wide as it should be imo. The cuts on the flaps are clean and rounded, etc. Unfortunately, my eyes have gotten worse as I age and it was just a freak chance that I noticed it didn't appear as wide. Making something look old isn't that hard so it's possible that I'm a victim of a forgery. I bought the Falcon almost a year ago from eBay.

Falcon's hanger is 7/8" wide by 3/4" long. All my other boxes are approximately 1" wide by 7/8" long. It's looking more like a forgery than a hanger size variation.

[ignignokt]

20160210_154406.jpg20160210_154401.jpgI hate to ask this, but can someone please measure the perforated hanger area on their Falcon box(es) and post back? I just need confirmation. I know paypal isn't going to touch it, but this is will be the second time this seller has sent me "goods not as described". He'll probably get to keep the money, but if it's a repro I'm sure everyone here would like to know. I guess the repro market is getting that good that I'm going to have to go over every purchase with a fine tooth comb even if they have 100% feedback.

There is the possibility that the seller was fooled as well, but either way I need to know.

[imp]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]17598[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]17599[/ATTACH]…There is the possibility that the seller was fooled as well, but either way I need to know.

These two photos shown in your last Post appear totally legit to me. Totally authentic. It looks EXACTLY like my box (same "Old Logo" Box variation), right down to the placement of the perforated ring. I agree that Falcon's punch-hole appears smaller than other WGSH, but I don't know that it is. Regardless, I am of the opinion that your Falcon is authentic.

Obviously, I would prefer to handle the specimen in person to 100% Confirm or Deny, but I would say, "Fret not. You're good."

For what it's worth…

- Benjamin

[ignignokt]

Really!? I can't get a better opinion than that. Just as a precaution, I hope someone else will measure theirs. I really find it odd that out of all my boxes I could reach (9 I believe) this one is the only hanger that size. Maybe they used this smaller hanger on supergal boxes? I have a Catwoman somewhere...

Edit: I just checked and Catwoman is the same size. I even checked my Western Heroes and they're even smaller and more rectangular. My Knights are buried in my storage room as well as my OZ boxes...

[k2]

just an fyi, imp is prob one of the most knowledgeable mego authorities in the world, i would trust his opinion

[ignignokt]

just an fyi, imp is prob one of the most knowledgeable mego authorities in the world, i would trust his opinion

I know that. He wrote the Bible for WGSH. That's why I said I couldn't get a better opinion, but I want to know why the Falcon box appears to be the only WGSH box with this smaller hanger size and I really want someone to confirm that it's consistent. If someone has an original Falcon box, please compare it with another original box and measure the hanger tabs. IMP knows his stuff, but he didn't say he measured the tab on his. An 1/8 of an inch isn't that noticeable. When I look at the repro Falcon box in my second post the hanger tab looks just like mine, and if it was listed as "original" I wouldn't have any reason to doubt it due to it having that hanger perforation. I would have to hold it, feel the cellophane, and smell it. That repro box in this auction: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mego-Falcon-...4AAOSw8-tWaok~ is really good.

[ignignokt]

Two of these reproductions with hanger tabs in two weeks is enough for me. This one is more obvious:

http://megomuseum.com/community/show...o-Lizard-Boxed

Reproductions are fine as long as they're sold as reproductions.

Coincidentally the Lizard box in my post above is an error boxed Lizard as well. You can use it for comparison on the perforation.

[k2]

oooof sorry, i believe i misread/misinterpreted the tone of your post i replied to. anyway, i have had a chance to measure my falcon hang tag...same as yours 7/8 wide 3/4 long

[ignignokt]

Thank you K2. It's weird... maybe Benjamin can find the answer as to why they used a smaller tab?

[Tom L]

After reading this post, I had to go look through my boxed figures. I had two original circle logo Falcon boxes which both had the smaller perforation you mentioned. I then went through the other hero boxes from the same wave (since they were in the same box) and did not find another to have the smaller perforation. The "M" logo Falcon box I had also had the normal sized perforation.

As to why the Falcon box has a smaller perforation, it is probably just variation in the perforation tooling. Thinking about how these boxes were printed and die-cut, it does make sense that it would be limited to Falcon boxes, but would also mean there are probably others to have this smaller perforation. I'll stop now before everyone falls asleep.

The smaller/squarer perforation found on the Super Foe, Western Heroes boxes, etc. has a totally different design. There are actually a few WGSH boxes (other than the Super Foes) that contain this perforation design. I have a few, but still need a few more.

Tom L.

[ignignokt]

Thanks for everyones help on this. Now I can go back into hibernation for awhile.

[LonnieFisher]

My solid box Falcon doesn't have a hanger tag at all. Probably because it's a mailer box...