Best and Worst of Superhero films revisited

[monitor_ep]

I also loved the pulp heroes characters:

* Doc Savage
* The Phantom
* The Shadow
* The Spider
* Black Bat

and the others who showed up in Dynamite Comics Masks

[Mr.Marion]

Savage isn't complete rubbish, studio tinkered a lot with something that has some decent moments.

Ya know it seemed like it was made by old out of touch studio heads that didn't know how to make an adventure movie for kids.
Not really memorable in any way. When the opening credits are the best scene in the movie you have problems.

[Brue]

35 minutes into Diabolik now. It has good vibes.
Can't see it in my top films.
Iassume that if I saw it 30 or 40 years ago, it would hold a higher status.

[palitoy]

Ya know it seemed like it was made by old out of touch studio heads that didn't know how to make an adventure movie for kids.
Not really memorable in any way. When the opening credits are the best scene in the movie you have problems.

I don't agree that it's not memorable. The studio added a lot of the camp in post. Pal's vision was actually solid, especially in cast.

[Nostalgiabuff]

you know, I had not watched Doc Savage since I was a kid so when you posted that opening credit I decided to get a copy on Amazon. It's not horrible. it actually a fun campy 70's movie. you just have to know what you are going to be watching to fully enjoy it. plus what is not to like about a very early role for Pam Hensley?

[PNGwynne]

35 minutes into Diabolik now. It has good vibes.
Can't see it in my top films.
Iassume that if I saw it 30 or 40 years ago, it would hold a higher status.

I actually saw it on MST3K first, I was mesmerized. I then dug into some of the comics and got the dvd.

[Brue]

So I heavily edited my previous list, added films and arrange them from 1-101. Since I just saw just saw Dawn of Justice, I checked to see where it would fall.

What I have come to realize is that day to day my order changes based on how I am connected to the movie or how I define the genre.

Today I was thinking Conan shouldn't be so high because it is fairly far removed from traditional Superheroes and though he has been published by Marvel before, he is not a Marvel character. Flash Gordon is similar in his attachment to mainstream comics.

Superman 2 I keep listed high because of my original feeling for the film, Reeves portrayal and it's place in comic book history -but it is not as good quality wise as modern films. Like Superman, Batman 89, and Blade all paved the way for the genre.

Incredibles was not a comic first. Neither was Unbreakable.

Many could be lumped by series rather than stand alone films.

Should animated be included or not?

I didn't include serials, unreleased, straight to video, fan films, or made for TV movies but certainly some could be.

I will not address the worst of now, but here is what I feel today after Dawn of Justice came out:

Here is my current top 50 Theatrical released comics movies (as of march 25, 2016)
I absolutely the top 24 - order could change at any time. 25 to 41 are great movies- in my opinion. 42- 50 round out my top 50: movies I liked but had some detractors.
There are more films in the genre I like a lot too -just not as much.



1. Avengers
2. Avengers Age of Ultron
3. Captain America - The Winter Soldier
4. Dark Knight
5. Iron Man
6. Incredibles
7. Spider-Man
8. Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice
9. Superman II
10. Batman Mask of the Phantasm
11. Captain America
12. Iron Man 2
13. X-Men
14. X-Men Days of Future Past
15. Spider-Man 2
16. X2
17. Guardians of the Galaxy
19. Batman (89)
20. Watchmen
21. Conan the Barbarian (Arnold)
22. Thor
23. Unbreakable
24. Superman The Movie


25. Batman Returns
26. Daredevil
27. Thor The DarkWorld
28. Flash Gordon
29. Batman Begins
30. Ant-Man
31. Blade
32. V for Vendetta
33. Sin City
34. The Crow
35 Incredible Hulk
36. Batman Forever
37. Batman (66)
38. Hellboy
39. X-Men First Class
40. Deadpool
41. Spawn


42. Blade 2
43. Amazing Spider-man
44. Rocketeer
45. Superman and Mole Men
46. Kick ***
47. Phantom
48. X-Men The Last Stand
49. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1994
50. Superman Returns

[Brue]

Why did I skip #18 on this list an previous ones?

[Brue]

Adding in the 3 most recent films, moving a couple choices and correcting my numbering mistake:
NOTE: The order changes from time to time. I tried to stick to Theatrically released movies with comic book origins.

1. Avengers
2. Avengers Age of Ultron
3. Captain America - The Winter Soldier
4. Dark Knight
5. Iron Man
6. Incredibles
7. Spider-Man
8. Superman II
9. Batman Mask of the Phantasm
10. Captain America

11. Iron Man 2
12. X-Men
13. X-Men Days of Future Past
14. Spider-Man 2
15. X2
16. Guardians of the Galaxy
17. Batman (89)
18. Watchmen
19. Conan the Barbarian (Arnold)
20.Batman v Superman

21. Thor
ADDED TO LIST. Doctor Strange
22. Unbreakable
23. Superman The Movie
ADDED TO LIST. Lego Batman
24. Batman Returns
25. Daredevil
26. Thor The DarkWorld
27. Flash Gordon
28. X-Men Age of Apocalypse
29. Batman Begins
30. Blade

31. Ant-Man
32. V for Vendetta
33. Sin City
34. The Crow
35. Incredible Hulk
36. Captain America Civil War
37. Batman Forever
38. Batman (66)
39. Hellboy
40. X-Men First Class

41. Deadpool
42. Spawn
ADDED TO THE LIST Suicide Squad
43. Blade 2
44. Amazing Spider-man
45. Rocketeer
46. Superman and Mole Men
47. Kick ***
48. Phantom
49. X-Men The Last Stand
50. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1994

51. Superman Returns
52. Ghost Rider
53. Fantastic 4 2015
54. Punisher War Zone
55. Man of Steel
56. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2014
57. Mask of Zorro
58. Barbarella
59. Underdog
60. Red Sonja

61. Howard The Duck
62. The Mask
63. Judge Dredd (1995)
64. The Wolverine
65. Conan the Destroyer
66. Swamp Thing
67. The Dark Knight Rises
68. Barb Wire
69. TMNT
70. Hellboy 2

71. Ghost Rider Spirits of Vengeance
72. The Shadow
73. Amazing Spider-man 2
74. Iron man 3
75. Tank Girl
76. Jonah Hex
77. Steel
78. League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
79. Hulk
80. Fantastic four silver surfer

81. Batman and robin
82. Kick *** 2
83. Superman 3
84. The Spirit
85. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2
86. Supergirl
87. Crow City of Angels
88. Legend of Zorro
89. Superman 4
90. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3
90.5 The Crow Salvation
91. Return of Swamp Thing
92. Son of the Mask
93. Green Lantern
94. X-Men Origins: Wolverine
95. Dredd
96. Fantastic Four (2005)
97. Elektra
98. Spider-man 3
99. The Punisher (Thomas Jane)
100. Sin City 2

101. Blade: Trinity
102. Constantine
103. Catwoman
104. Big Hero 6

[thunderbolt]

you've got Hellboy 2 twice.

[Brue]

you've got Hellboy 2 twice.

That's weird.

I watched it this weekend because my daughter wanted to see Hellboy 1 and 2.
I thought I had forgotten to include it before. -I'll edit the list above which will make this post make no sense.

[thunderbolt]

and I can't believe you have HB2 ranked lower than that Stallone Dredd, and that Dredd higher than the recent one. Just the Stallone vanity losing the helmet is enough for me to dislike it. The new one kept it on thru the whole movie.

[Brue]

and I can't believe you have HB2 ranked lower than that Stallone Dredd, and that Dredd higher than the recent one. Just the Stallone vanity losing the helmet is enough for me to dislike it. The new one kept it on thru the whole movie.

The recent Dredd was an abomination. The original was corny fun. HB2 wasn't a great movie, but it wasn't terrible either.

[Hector]

Recent Dredd was true to its Heavy Metal storyline...I loved it...keeping his helmet throughout, without showing his face once, was boss to me.

Stallone Dredd, while not terrible...it's just not Dredd to me.

[Hector]

I see Deadpool was not a favorite of yours. I can see some people not liking it, especially his personality, breaking the fourth wall, crass, sex, profanity, etc...I get that...

But why Civil War so low?

I though it was a lot of fun...the comedy of Spidey and Ant-Man alone, was worth the price of admission, lol.

It was far from a perfect movie, for one, I thought Captain America was a bit too obsessed with Bucky...and thought Stark was right, not Rogers...