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  • Hector
    el Hombre de Acero
    • May 19, 2003
    • 31852

    Jared Leto as the Joker in Suicide Squad




    I love some of the comments online...

    "Marlyn Manson, not the Joker"

    "Wow, white paint and green dye, and that's it, instant low-budget Joker"

    "White rapper"

    "Ghetto grilled thug"

    "The next celebrity tattoo artist on TLC"

    Or the one that stood out to me the most...

    "Good grief!"


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  • Random Axe
    The Voice of Reason
    • Apr 16, 2008
    • 4518

    #2
    I have run out of words for how badly WB is screwing up this brand. If you're not sure exactly what to do with it, sell it. Don't eat it, vomit it back up and then eat it again. Snyder and WB are playing a game of 2 dudes, one cup regurgitating this tripe back and forth until every useful bit of protein or possible nutrient is eliminated. They just had to Snyderize the Joker. He simply looks like he's ready for a Five Finger Death Punch concert. Pathetic.
    I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she dumped me before we met.

    If anyone here believes in psychokinesis, please raise my hand.

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    • Hedji
      Citizen of Gotham
      • Nov 17, 2012
      • 7246

      #3
      Me No Likey

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      • sprytel
        Talkative Member
        • Jun 26, 2009
        • 6545

        #4
        Does anyone else get a Caesar Romero vibe from this? And not just because of the grillz...

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        • emeraldknight47
          Talkative Member
          • Jun 20, 2011
          • 5212

          #5
          Wow. That just---sucks. I didn't know the Joker was a part time ghetto-rapper and tattoo aficionado or that he had dental problems requiring him to get silver dentures. Sadly, for DC/WB, another fail in my book. I dunno---I guess they're trying to appeal to a much younger, "hipper" demographic than us old fogeys....
          sigpic Oh then, what's this? Big flashy lighty thing, that's what brought me here! Big flashy lighty things have got me written all over them. Not actually. But give me time. And a crayon.

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          • huedell
            Museum Ball Eater
            • Dec 31, 2003
            • 11069

            #6
            Originally posted by Random Axe
            I have run out of words for how badly WB is screwing up this brand. If you're not sure exactly what to do with it, sell it. Don't eat it, vomit it back up and then eat it again. Snyder and WB are playing a game of 2 dudes, one cup regurgitating this tripe back and forth until every useful bit of protein or possible nutrient is eliminated. They just had to Snyderize the Joker. He simply looks like he's ready for a Five Finger Death Punch concert. Pathetic.
            It's not great, but it ain't as bad as what WB has done to Superman thus far.

            Snyderized?

            Snyder, to me, is some kind of pawn in this game---a lesser version of directors who seem to grasp "story" and "characters" to any great extent, not even in the same league as guys like Tim Burton, i.e. stylistic visual directors who also know very little about story comparatively, but have an extraordinary "visual" sense....IMHO, Snyder's value to WB is mostly "knowing how to shoot high-adrenaline action sequences".... which is cutting edge style for today's "video game" culture audience....and, admittedly, pretty vital to these kinds of movies.

            Leto's Joker likely came about from a WB executive meeting with Nolan, asking his take on how the Joker could successfully be portrayed---the only answer being to instruct Snyder to have elements of the successful "Ledger" Joker without copying him directly. Nolan has described Ledger's Joker as a "Sid Vicious" screw-the-world type---I see it as if we took Hamill's familiar Joker but never added the paradoxical "gentleman-psycho whimsy" (that Nicholson's also seemed to have). Ledger's Joker was much dirtier, and more creepy---and more UNPREDICTABLE than any live-action Joker we've seen before. Tattoos, bad hygiene, etc---these things belong to that kind of Joker.

            I'm fine with that, as I see the Joker as a character archetype whose main defining trait is "CHAOS" ---him being the greatest purveyor of chaos in the DCU.

            So, Leto, a real-life "rock star" of sorts was stunt-cast as the Joker for that "rebel musician" connection to Nolan's "punk" notion on which Ledger's bankable Joker was built.

            Could be worse.

            You could get a dark, brooding Superman who strays far enough from his familiar "goodest-guy" archetype to encroach upon his Batman co-star's turf----oh---wait....

            "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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            • Random Axe
              The Voice of Reason
              • Apr 16, 2008
              • 4518

              #7
              Trust me Hue, I'm pretty hacked off a the treatment of Supes, this Joker pic just sent me completely off the rails I was precariously balancing on.

              Snyderizing to me is taking something and, without necessity or public demand, modernizing it to appeal to a demographic that would have purchased a ticket regardless. It takes little skill to make a dark, gritty action story cool. The real talent is taking something inherently goofy, an alien in a blue suit with red underwear on the outside of his pants, and making THAT cool. We've already seen how that can be done, it's not impossible. A talented writer, a talented director can mold the nerdiest of subject matter into something both compelling and interesting. Exhibit A: The Incredibles. Had WB approached their universe from the fun side and made something sort of faithful to the source material, they would have so much more room for expansion of other characters and stories. Instead we get a Muscle and Fitness cover model putting on a suit and doing some sulking and screaming.

              I'm ranting and I shouldn't. Nothing I write anywhere on Earth can change the course WB is on, and I might be totally off base, but from all the negativity I've already read the past couple of days tells me I'm likely not alone in thinking that Warners and DC have utterly failed on many levels and have ignored the remaining levels they could use for some sort of redemption.

              I'm a HUGE Superman fan and did not watch MoS in theaters because I thought it looked like ****. I rented the bluray and confirmed it was ****. I fully expect b v s to be doubled up on the **** factor. Not sure if they are still planning on releasing this the same weekend as Civil War, but you can be damn sure which film I'd rather see that day.
              I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she dumped me before we met.

              If anyone here believes in psychokinesis, please raise my hand.

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              • enyawd72
                Maker of Monsters!
                • Oct 1, 2009
                • 7904

                #8
                Words fail me...just another example of how far superhero comics have fallen.
                It saddens me beyond belief.

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                • WannabeMego
                  Made in the USA
                  • May 2, 2003
                  • 2170

                  #9
                  This is NOT the Joker we were hoping for...Move Along...
                  Everyone is Entitled to MY Opinion...Your's, not so much!

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                  • thunderbolt
                    Hi Ernie!!!
                    • Feb 15, 2004
                    • 34211

                    #10
                    really wish they would loose the ink, trendy-ing up iconic characters never works in the long run. In a few years this will look as dated as the Disco Dazzler.
                    You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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                    • The Bat
                      Batman Fanatic
                      • Jul 14, 2002
                      • 13412

                      #11
                      My God that's HORRIBLE!! Really missing Heath Ledger right now.
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                      • Hedji
                        Citizen of Gotham
                        • Nov 17, 2012
                        • 7246

                        #12
                        Originally posted by The Bat
                        My God that's HORRIBLE!! Really missing Caesar Romero right now.
                        Fixed that for ya.

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                        • The Bat
                          Batman Fanatic
                          • Jul 14, 2002
                          • 13412

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Hedji
                          Fixed that for ya.
                          No you didn't! Loved the Batman 66 show when I was 5...but can't stand to watch it now. Sorry.
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                          • Earth 2 Chris
                            Verbose Member
                            • Mar 7, 2004
                            • 32526

                            #14
                            Is someone high up at WB/DC secretly working for Marvel? It's like they are intentionally making boneheaded moves to sink these movies.



                            Chris
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                            • Hedji
                              Citizen of Gotham
                              • Nov 17, 2012
                              • 7246

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Earth 2 Chris
                              It's like they are intentionally making boneheaded moves to sink these movies.



                              Chris

                              I'm actually not so sure about that. People like to be shocked. It gets butts into theater seats. This will sell. How do you follow up Heath Ledger? You go more shocking, more out of the box. This will sell tickets. They'll get some wild trailers put together. People will say, "Hey that looks pretty different". We'll all buy a ticket, just because we're low hanging fruit.

                              Whether or not people come away liking this is a different story altogether. But the idea is not to make movies that are beloved… it's to make movies that sell tickets.

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