Fantastic Four cancelled?

[samurainoir]

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/10/05/confirmed-fantastic-four-to-be-cancelled-in-2015-with-a-triple-sized-issue-645-as-january-kicks-off-fantastic-fourever/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

[thunderbolt]

and then it will be relaunched 6 months to a year later with a multi gatefold laser cut holofoil cover by some new creative team that wants a vanity number 1 issue. I smell a press stunt.

[monitor_ep]

And after the DVD of the Fantastic Four movie comes out the Real F4 will get a new #1 comic book.

[VintageMike]

Sounds like it's "on hold" until the movie stuff is done.

[Earth 2 Chris]

Having just read Marvel: The Untold Story, and based on that portrayal of Perlmutter, I'm kind of not surprised. This has to be the biggest FU in cinema history, as far as an adapted work.

Chris

[clemso]

What a shame. One of the first comic books that i ever read and Jack Kirby's one hundred issue run is one of my faves of all time. On the bonus side, don't expect any Mego FF repros anytime soon.

[MIB41]

It has to make you wonder what Fox Studios think of their forthcoming debacle. It just reminds me how insane Hollywood can be. Who continues working on a film that is so far removed from the source material that the comic book itself is shuddered in protest? Amazing. So does Fox only have films rights? If so does this mean Marvel can negate the merchandise completely? That would be incredible. A comic book film with no merchandise campaign.

[hedrap]

It's not about the adaptation. I laid this out in another thread, but the short story is Fox feels Marvel screwed them when they bought Marvel Films in an acquisition of New World and then built Fox Kids around their characters, even ones they didn't own film rights to, which saved Toy Biz. Perlmutter and Arad then went outside Fox and created Marvel Studios.

So while I think the Fox FF is going to suck, the Marvel people have been scummy for a very, very, very long time. Roger Corman was actually the last honest owner of the company, but he didn't have the resources to make it work.

[Mr.Marion]

Reading this title my first thought was the movie was going to be scrapped . :( why can't anyone translate FF in a film format. It used to be marvel's flagship title now its a punchline.

[monitor_ep]

Why didn't Fox just give up the rights? They could milt the X-Cow for all its worth. Marvel has the Inhumans, so that could be there mutants in there universe.

[Earth 2 Chris]

Is it possible this has something to do with Fox's former connection to Star Wars, and Disney/Marvel now owning it?

Chris

[hedrap]

Sta Wars is only connected in the context that Fox loses out on another franchise, which is the larger issue.

You have to look at the entire trajectory. Fox kept Marvel alive with Fox Kids under the belief they had access, or eventually would be involved in, co-productions for all these properties. So they invested a decade into priming a generation for the X-Men movie, which is why it succeeded. Fox thought all available Marvel characters were apart of the Marvel Films acquisition, or eventually would be, but Marvel had licensed so may characters away before Corman bought them that they were only left with X, FF, DD, Surfer, and connected characters. So they assumed they would end up as co-producers on outside Marvel properties, but Arad and Perlmutter had created Marvel Studios with the intent to cut them out.

What reason does Fox have to give up the FF?

If you want really interesting into how fugly this is behind-the-scenes, just read this...

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/10/07/chris-claremont-on-why-x-men-writers-arent-allowed-to-create-new-characters-now/

Chris Claremont talked with Len Wein, Marc Bernardin and Heath Corson about his and Len’s history in comic books a few months ago at Phoenix Comic Con for the Nerdist Podcast. I just got round to listening to the audio (and you can as well, below).

Something unreported however until now, was when asked about creating new characters, Chris Claremont said,

“I have to say quite honestly as I understand it now the X department is forbidden to create new characters.

(SHOCK RESPONSE)

“Well… who owns them?

“All because all new characters become the film property of Fox.

“There will be no X-Men merchandising for the foreseeable future because, why promote Fox material?”

Forty-two minutes in… but you should listen to the whole thing. Chris Claremont currently writes the X-Men comic book Nightcrawler, with a new issue out tomorrow.

We have reported this character-creating issue before now, but this is the first time I’ve heard an X-book creator confirm it publicly. We’ve also been told though that if you can create new characters under the guise of a Marvel Now style event, then they can be attributed to Marvel Now and not to an Xbook… so Marvel gets to keep the film rights.

Think about what the implies. It's not a contractual issue where Marvel signed away X rights, it's the ownership of Marvel Films via Corman that brought them the rights. Sony can't claim ownership over new Spidey-related characters because that's a license.

[Gadgeteer]

Mavel without there first family, man that hurts...

[The Bat]

I for one an GLAD! The new Fox FF movie should get no help from the comic, or the toys that could be made from it...to hell with Fox!

[BATMAN89]

I for one an GLAD! The new Fox FF movie should get no help from the comic, or the toys that could be made from it...to hell with Fox!

Agreed!