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  • Earth 2 Chris
    Verbose Member
    • Mar 7, 2004
    • 32498

    Horror of Dracula on Super Mates




    It's part two of our House of Franklin-stein horror series, and Cindy and I discuss the first (and arguably, the best) of Hammer's Dracula films with 1958's Horror of Dracula. Christopher Lee vs. Peter Cushing in one of the best climaxes in any horror film!

    Also, we tackle the Batman tale in Detective Comics #455. Batman runs afoul of a vampire that bears a striking resemblance to...Christopher Lee!!!

    Give 'er a listen!



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  • The Toyroom
    The Packaging King
    • Dec 31, 2004
    • 16653

    #2
    Yet another fun Super Mates podcast! I always enjoy these.
    Think OUTSIDE the Box! For the BEST in Repro & Custom Packaging!

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    • Hedji
      Citizen of Gotham
      • Nov 17, 2012
      • 7246

      #3
      Love the film. I wish WB would get their act together and release the restored Blu Ray on Region 1.

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      • MIB41
        Eloquent Member
        • Sep 25, 2005
        • 15631

        #4
        Fun episode Chris and Cindy! Yeah, for me Lee will always be my preferred interpretation of Dracula because there is no pathos to him. Dracula is essentially a predator reacting solely on instinctive impulses. There is no ambiguity about a lost soul looking to break free. There is no pretty boy looking to find a pretty girl to dress in bling for eternity. Here, Dracula is solely and purposely the Great White Shark of vampires. He doesn't care what you are, who you are, or how you got there. If you possess blood, he will devour you. And Peter Cushing is the Quint of Vampire Hunters. He gets it. He understands the creature. And if he must perish in the effort to stop him, so be it. It don't get any better.

        In today's culture, the idea of vampires is so diluted down from what our generation grew up with, it's almost unrecognizable. And to me, where that idea started running adrift was with Anne Rice. When she came on the scene and suggested, " Hey there are people behind these fangs." It altered the modern thinking about vampires. She suggested, "They're just as real as you and me, except they have this affliction that forces them to live this way." It was an interesting idea and in a way, I guess, allowed a twisted "understanding" of the vampire. But the more she got into the sub-cultures and the seeming impulsive sensuality of these creatures, it became less about vampires and more about this kind of twisted culture that lavished itself in this decadence. The concept in effect collapsed on itself.

        So these days being a vampire is akin to wearing a leather jacket in the 50's. It simply makes you "cool". In some ironic twist our society has lost the dark soul of the vampire and turned them into icons that embrace cultural images of our youth. It's not their parent's Dracula, that's for sure. I'll take Lee over all of that every day of the week, and twice on Sunday. Give me the predator. Give me the monster. Today's approach of vampirism is akin to redoing Jaws and instead of Robert Shaw playing Quint, we might get Dr. Drew. The shark would jump on the boat for a couch session.
        Last edited by MIB41; Sep 19, '14, 10:39 AM.

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        • Earth 2 Chris
          Verbose Member
          • Mar 7, 2004
          • 32498

          #5
          ^Couldn't agree more Tom. Anne Rice's approach was novel, but unfortunately, it became the norm. Kind of like what Alan Moore and Frank Miller did to our super heroes, in many ways. It was nice to see the other side of the picture, but everyone else wanted to do the same thing afterwards, and suddenly the thought is you can't go back. I call BS on that, and would love to see someone give us a bad-*** Dracula once again.

          Thanks for listening guys. We're having a lot of fun on these. We rope our son Andrew into the next episode to talk about our favorite Universal monster, the Wolf Man!

          Chris
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          • madmarva
            Talkative Member
            • Jul 7, 2007
            • 6445

            #6
            In an age of relativism, the idea of an antagonist or villain being evil because he is evil is just out of vogue in pop and our regular culture.

            I have an affection for Lugosi but he never really scared me as Dracula, but Lee did, at least as a kid. Can't wait to listen, and looking forward to the Wolfman show. He's my favorite. I hope you cover Batman 255 in the comic portion.

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            • Earth 2 Chris
              Verbose Member
              • Mar 7, 2004
              • 32498

              #7
              Sorry to say we won't be covering Batman #255 with Anthony Lupus the Werewolf. It was hard to pass up, but I felt like we should spread the wealth, so we went with another hero/monster dust-up. I didn't want it to be all Batman, and I HAD to cover Tec #455, since it tied in so well to Horror of Dracula. I think we'll have to do it next year...or perhaps earlier!

              Plus both Superman and Batman will show up in our final installment.

              It's still a lot of fun, I promise!

              Chris
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              • madmarva
                Talkative Member
                • Jul 7, 2007
                • 6445

                #8
                World's Finest issue, possibly with a Phantom Stranger guest appearance?

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                • Earth 2 Chris
                  Verbose Member
                  • Mar 7, 2004
                  • 32498

                  #9
                  ^Not quite. Probably around the right publishing time. I do have that issue though.

                  Chris
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                  • madmarva
                    Talkative Member
                    • Jul 7, 2007
                    • 6445

                    #10
                    Two strikes. skeeter?

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                    • Earth 2 Chris
                      Verbose Member
                      • Mar 7, 2004
                      • 32498

                      #11
                      Nope. Thought about that one too. This one ties into the movie, due to a large grouping of monsters in both. I'VE SAID TOO MUCH!!!

                      Chris
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                      • madmarva
                        Talkative Member
                        • Jul 7, 2007
                        • 6445

                        #12
                        I struck out. Someone else's turn to bat.

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