B Vs S Ultimate Edition Trailer

[palitoy]

[hedrap]

OK, the Investigative Clark bit looks interesting.

The rest...Superman choosing who to save...is by far the most anti-Superman idea, ever. That's like Miracleman/Supreme/Authority stuff.

More and more BvS appears to be a sequel to Watchmen. Luthor as Ozymandias, Supes as Manhattan, Batman as hybrid Niteowl/Rorschach.

[Earth 2 Chris]

The plot only makes sense, if you force it to.

I like seeing more Clark...but I'm going to skip this one. Unless until it hits the $5 bin at Wal-Mart.

Chrsi

[WannabeMego]

I've tried to not pile on, because there were some decent parts & ideas of the Movie that never played well...but...how in the hell does this make it better?!?!?!

It actually made me like it even LESS.

It is absolutely amazing how clueless the people in charge are...very sad.

[madmarva]

The rest...Superman choosing who to save...is by far the most anti-Superman idea, ever. That's like Miracleman/Supreme/Authority stuff.

Actually, that's a call back to Superman: The Movie where two nuclear missiles are fired and he goes after the one headed for New Jersey like he promised Mrs. Teshmacher first and then heading to California to take care of the consequences of the missile that hit the San Andreas Fault.

I love the first two Superman movies and Chris Reeve, but Superman makes selfish decisions. Jor-el warns him not to turn back time, but he does anyway. He chooses to I've up his powers to have a relationship with Lois instead of continue to act as protector.

[sprytel]

Selfish by Superman standards. He still honors his promise to Miss Teschmacher, like a good Blue Boy Scout.

[ODBJBG]

Someone criticizing him for "choosing" who to save, doesn't mean he actually does. I think the critique here is that Superman is hurt that people think he does that, but even Superman can't be everywhere at once.

And to be fair, I think it's a pretty realistic approach to things. If Superman were real, I suspect people who had tragedy happen to them, WOULD be upset that Superman doesn't save them, or their family members, but was off doing something else.

Looks like a TON of new footage... But I really didn't care for that movie, so I'm not sure another hours worth of footage is going to make me like it more.

[Earth 2 Chris]

Reeve's Superman does make a selfish mistake in Superman II...but he pays for it. His sacrifice to get his powers back is better established in the Donner Cut. At the end he tells the President, "I won't let you down again." And he doesn't, unless you count Superman Returns as the true sequel to this, which in that case, he abandons Earth for five because Krypton may still be out there.

Chris

[madmarva]

Selfish by Superman standards. He still honors his promise to Miss Teschmacher, like a good Blue Boy Scout.

No doubt. Had he not made that promise, the implication is that he would have followed the missile going to the West Coast and saved Lois and Jimmy first. Of course, the other missile would have then struck New Jersey. He clearly made a choice to honor his promise and save those in danger on the East Coast.

The question is would he have turned back time — which he was instructed not to do by Jor-el — to save the East Coast, or did he only do that — go against his father's will — to save Lois. I think the latter. Is it selfish to put your loved ones ahead of others? Yes, but it's totally understandable.

Donner had originally planned for the bomb he guided off into space to crack open the phantom zone. The turning back time ending was also originally planned to be used in Superman II, but Donner used it for the first film because he felt he didn't have a strong enough idea for the climax of the first film.

[hedrap]

I see the comparison but it's not equal. Reeves has to make that call in a nuclear strike, end of the world moment. Cavill is doing nothing until Lois is in danger, then wrecks a lot of people, then retreats. Reeves is not reluctant to help anyone, Cavill is.

[madmarva]

I agree. My only point is that it was inspired by the Reeve movie and that his version was portrayed as making tough decisions because of manipulations by Luthor, too. The differences in the Kents and their parenting are the differences in the characters.

[hedrap]

^That's the truth. I've met rurals like Snyder's Kents. They would consider being related to Superman a burden and not worth the trouble it could bring.

I'd love to see Snyder's Uncle Ben. "With great power, comes great liability. So you better be insured. And find a lawyer cause at some point in life Peter, it's sue or be sued".

Snyder's Spider-Man: Parker would be a TMZ paparazzi hack. Gwen and Harry are socialite druggies. MJ is a socialite celeb. Ben is killed in a home invasion and May is assaulted in a homage to Death Wish. Spider-Man is just Rorschach in blood-red and navy. He hangs people with his webs.

Writes itself.

[madmarva]

^That's the truth. I've met rurals like Snyder's Kents. They would consider being related to Superman a burden and not worth the trouble it could bring.

I'd love to see Snyder's Uncle Ben. "With great power, comes great liability. So you better be insured. And find a lawyer cause at some point in life Peter, it's sue or be sued".

Snyder's Spider-Man: Parker would be a TMZ paparazzi hack. Gwen and Harry are socialite druggies. MJ is a socialite celeb. Ben is killed in a home invasion and May is assaulted in a homage to Death Wish. Spider-Man is just Rorschach in blood-red and navy. He hangs people with his webs.

Writes itself.

Ouch. You should try to sell a script to him, lol. Snyder needs to go away and make his Ayn Rand opus and leave the super heroes alone.

[MIB41]

For those wanting a copy, the movie came out on DVD and Blu ray today. I'll most likely rent me a copy for this weekend so I can see this film and get at least on the same page as everyone else who saw it. I just have to decide whether I dive into the theatrical version or waste three hours watching the "ultimate cut" which reviews have said don;t really save the core problems with the film. It's ultimate version is rated R because you get to see Superman's hinny and some blood splatter for added effect. Oh boy.

[Random Axe]

I just watched the ultimate edition. The foundation of the film is unaltered but some of the logic gaps were filled in. I still cannot process how Bruce and Clark bonded at the end after only 15 minutes being in the same zip code and after such violence. Tango and Cash made more sense.

As an elseworlds story I suppose it kinda works, but if anyone looks for anything traditional out of any of the characters your eyes are gonna be sore.