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lepage
Mar 10, '08, 1:55 PM
(BLADE)
I for whatever reason missed this show when it was aired on Spike tv so I bought the dvd series when it came out last month. The good news is that I thought the story line and back story were great as were the fight sequences. I thought this series was fantastic and found myself wanting more.
The bad news is that the series got canceled (I think!?) and the last episode leaves you hanging.
I love good tv series. I love a show that has 1 continious story line but it bugs the heck out of me when the story is never finished.
A few more examples:
Surface: I bought this series on dvd and sat and watched every episode nearly back to back because I wanted to find out what happened. The last episode ends where the REAL story begins.
Wolf Lake: This was a series that aired right around 9/11 so not many people watched it because everyone was pre-occupied with Terrorist activities. This show stared Lou Diamond P. and to me had a great story line and had a lot of pottential but it got canceled leaving the story unfinished.
My question is, why bother releasing a tv show on dvd that only gives you half the story with little to no hope of being able to see the rest!?
grayhank
Mar 10, '08, 2:21 PM
Yeah I hate it when that happens and it's usually the sci-fi shows that suffer. I'm still waiting to find out what happens at the end of Season 5 of Angel. Five years of build up only to be cancelled....the least they could do is make a TV movie or something.
Flynne
Mar 10, '08, 2:36 PM
I'm still waiting to find out what happens at the end of Season 5 of Angel. Five years of build up only to be cancelled....the least they could do is make a TV movie or something.
Hank,
If there's a comic store near you then you can find Joss Whedon's "Angel: After the Fall" Mini-series. It comes out in a collected paperback edition in June. It picks up at the sword stroke that ends the last episode, so it's literally right where the series ended:
Amazon.com: Angel: After The Fall: Brian Lynch,Franco Urru: Books (http://www.amazon.com/Angel-After-Fall-Brian-Lynch/dp/160010181X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205177356&sr=8-1)
For some reason Amazon doesn't have it under Whedon, even though he is the author and his name is on the cover as such. They have the penciler and inker listed as authors instead.
Also if your a Whedon fan he's also writing a series for Dark Horse called "Buffy: Season Eight". The first collected edition "The Long Road Home" is out now, and I think the second collected edition "No Future For You" should be out soon. And of course, there's the "Serenity" mini-series "Those Left Behind" that covers the interim between the last episode of "Firefly" and the beginning of "Serenity".
jayihdz
Mar 10, '08, 3:12 PM
http://www.brilliantbutcancelled.com/
I used to watch a show called Freaks and Geeks, it was really good!! Too bad it got can.
Type3Toys
Mar 10, '08, 4:48 PM
I never got into the whole "Snipes" style Blade. I just hate the look as well as the fact he was a vampire. I prefer the old school "Shaft" style Blade.
grayhank
Mar 10, '08, 5:17 PM
Hank,
If there's a comic store near you then you can find Joss Whedon's "Angel: After the Fall" Mini-series. It comes out in a collected paperback edition in June. It picks up at the sword stroke that ends the last episode, so it's literally right where the series ended:
Amazon.com: Angel: After The Fall: Brian Lynch,Franco Urru: Books (http://www.amazon.com/Angel-After-Fall-Brian-Lynch/dp/160010181X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205177356&sr=8-1)
For some reason Amazon doesn't have it under Whedon, even though he is the author and his name is on the cover as such. They have the penciler and inker listed as authors instead.
Also if your a Whedon fan he's also writing a series for Dark Horse called "Buffy: Season Eight". The first collected edition "The Long Road Home" is out now, and I think the second collected edition "No Future For You" should be out soon. And of course, there's the "Serenity" mini-series "Those Left Behind" that covers the interim between the last episode of "Firefly" and the beginning of "Serenity".
Yeah I got those, it's just not the same and besides I'd have to learn how to read or something :silly:
toys2cool
Mar 10, '08, 5:36 PM
Yeah i hate that too,I think if it would've been played on something like Fox,CBS or NBC it would've done a lot better
HardyGirl
Mar 10, '08, 8:33 PM
Since it's pretty well known that I'm a Shaun Cassidy fan, his work as a writer/producer has been nothing short of brilliant. Too bad no one else can see it.The only season of American Gothic was released on DVD, but at least it had some closure. Invasion was released on DVD w/ a cliffhanger ending, and no hope of it being revived, despite fans efforts to save it. I think they should at least have done a few more eps (in DVD only) to give us some closure! I hate being left hanging on such a good series!
Let's hope his new series Inseparable does better.
toys2cool
Mar 10, '08, 8:35 PM
Yeah weren't we left hanging with Everwood also? not sure anyone watched that in here but it was a great little show on the WB :grin:
Brue
Mar 10, '08, 10:48 PM
Wow! I forgot they were even planning on making that. I was going to watch it when it came out. Guess I missed it. I'll check out the DVDs.
MarkStalcup
Mar 11, '08, 8:48 AM
I liked the Blade movies okay, but really loved the idea of a Nightstalkers movie with Ryan Reynolds and the pure eye candy of Jessica Biel. Perhaps I am in the minority, because most found Reynolds annoying, but I dug his smartaleck retorts and wanted to see those two in a movie more than Blade's one-note sulking...hence, I never watched the series. Snipes just turned into something really bland and brooding in those films, and I'm not sure the new actor did any better.
aquatroy
Mar 11, '08, 9:18 AM
Live Action Tick was absolutly brilliant! I liked it better then the animated show. The live action gave it another level of absurdity. I think it faced production problems dealing with a strike and was bounced around the schedule like Robin Williams wearing flubber shoes. Go get that on DVD, it's well worth it!
>why bother releasing a tv show on dvd that only gives you half the story with little to no hope of being able to see the rest!?
'cos if you sell enough disks they'll bring back the series, or make direct to disk films, or somesuch. Plus; once it's done it doesn't really cost anything to impress a set of disks.
"Surface" was a good example of the "mystery" shows we got in the early 00's.... they tried really hard to keep it weird, and to keep the audience from figuring out what was going on ('cos "X-Files" was REALLY popular) and eventually you'd get to a point where NOTHING'S happened and you're having your doubts that the production crew has a clue about their own series. "Surface" was bad for that. So... we get a dead guy coming back, someone sees a sea monster, and *gag* little Billy makes friends with a baby monster. A season later and we've lost track of the dead guy, someone's seen a sea monster a few more times, and little Billy's baby beast eats the cool girls' dog.
But at least nobody felt the need to hide from feet.
Don C.
MarkStalcup
Mar 11, '08, 10:29 AM
"X-Files" and "Twin Peaks" are why I never got into "Lost," that sinking feeling at the end of the day that there IS no ending even in mind, let alone written, and they're just BSing viewers.
apes3978
Mar 11, '08, 8:39 PM
[/QUOTE]why bother releasing a tv show on dvd that only gives you half the story with little to no hope of being able to see the rest!?[/QUOTE]
'cos if you sell enough disks they'll bring back the series, or make direct to disk films, or somesuch. Plus; once it's done it doesn't really cost anything to impress a set of disks.
What ctc says has some truth to it. That's how FAMILY GUY got brought back to FOX. The huge sales of the first three seasons on DVD coupled with the good ratings it was getting in rereuns on TBS convinced FOX the audience was there so it was resurrected.
And, I think the good ratings the FUTURAMA was getting in the reruns was the reason they made the new DVD for that...
>"X-Files" and "Twin Peaks" are why I never got into "Lost," that sinking feeling at the end of the day that there IS no ending even in mind, let alone written, and they're just BSing viewers.
"the prisioner" is why I couldn't get into ANY of those shows. It was the same idea; the overall story that they keep you in the dark about. (Hell; you get to the last episode and they STILL don't tell you what exactly happened....) The thing that the prisioner did that the rest didn't was that each episode had an end. You may not have known who won the war; but you definitely knew who won the battle every episode. I didn't get that from the rest of these shows which made it tough to gauge how tough the opposition is, the serriousness of the events, the effect events are having on the characters, and the fun of trying to guess what's going on. (Although a lot of folks have been doing that with "Lost" I guess.)
Don C.
Seeker
Mar 13, '08, 7:27 AM
The Live action Tick was great. But what about these???
Anyone remember Nowhere Man? Talk about a good series.Who was after the photographer and why? We'll never know.
I hated the fact that the lead actor ofKindred the Embraced died and the series was never finished.
I dont think they ever finished that series I think it was called werewolf.
It had this kid who spent the whole first season chasing down this one eyed salior guy who turned him. The second season started with an even older master taking over as main bad guy. Started giving some interesting back story then too.
Space Above and Beyond never finished. And Damn that last episode was good.
What about Captain Power? For a kids toy based show it was really well written. I saw some of the scripts for future storylines. Its a pity the show got cancelled.
What about those folks stuck in the Time Tunnel or in the Land of the Giants they never got home either.
Still ya know whats worse then an unfinished series? One that ends and the "New" creative writers that finish it rush the ending and dont even look like they ever saw an episode. War of the worlds was like that. They disreguarded the entire Mortaxen/Mothrean backstory.
johnmiic
Mar 13, '08, 12:41 PM
Max Headroom. TV's first,(?), cyberpunk/sci-fi tv series. Fast paced, well written, insightful, and it never had a chance.
I also like the Queen of Swords w/Tessie Santiago. It was a female Zorro rip-off but she was so attractive I didn't mind.
silver surfer animated series - caught in the rift of marvel's bankruptcy ended with a cliffhanger.
StrangeVisitor
Mar 13, '08, 5:08 PM
I liked the Blade movies okay, but really loved the idea of a Nightstalkers movie with Ryan Reynolds and the pure eye candy of Jessica Biel. Snipes just turned into something really bland and brooding in those films, and I'm not sure the new actor did any better.
Yeah, I thought all through the 3rd movie it seemed like Snipes was bored or irritated or both, when this series is what he'll be most associated with. Both he and writer/ director Goyer dropped the ball in their third outing. Hope that someone at the studio remembers how well the first two movies did and gives Nightstalkers a shot though.
"X-Files" and "Twin Peaks" are why I never got into "Lost," that sinking feeling at the end of the day that there IS no ending even in mind, let alone written, and they're just BSing viewers.
You're right. The producers have to fill up 22 hour-long episodes a season so whatever "vision" they have for a show like Lost seems to get diluted in filling that quota. The writing on cable shows like The Shield or Rescue Me is generally held in higher regard because they only shoot 13 episodes & can concentrate more on script quality.
But what about these???
Anyone remember Nowhere Man? Talk about a good series.Who was after the photographer and why? We'll never know.
I hated the fact that the lead actor ofKindred the Embraced died and the series was never finished.
I dont think they ever finished that series I think it was called werewolf.
It had this kid who spent the whole first season chasing down this one eyed salior guy who turned him. The second season started with an even older master taking over as main bad guy. Started giving some interesting back story then too.
Space Above and Beyond never finished. And Damn that last episode was good.
What about Captain Power? For a kids toy based show it was really well written. I saw some of the scripts for future storylines. Its a pity the show got cancelled.
Max Headroom. TV's first,(?), cyberpunk/sci-fi tv series. Fast paced, well written, insightful, and it never had a chance.
Those are some of my favorite one season wonders that deserved better. Max Headroom was at least twenty minutes ahead of it's time. Matt Frewer never did work this good or subtle later in his career. Capt. Power may have been produced to sell toys but sometimes the writing blew me away like when they killed a lead character of a kids show! in the series finale(Thanks JMS!). Nowhere Man great conspiracy show and spiritual descendant of the Prisoner.
>Anyone remember Nowhere Man?
I HATED this show, again due mostly to the prisioner. This show had the same problem most of the 90's conspiracy shows had: a really, REALLY ineffective conspiracy. The guys in the villaige were a threat; in the first episdoe of Nowhere Man the main character takes his film to a local photomat to get developed! Er... so the conspiracy controlls everything EXCPET the photomat?
>I dont think they ever finished that series I think it was called werewolf.
One of the Fox network's first; wasn't it? I remember it being kinda silly but entertaining. (Which I think is the best way to do it.)
>Space Above and Beyond never finished. And Damn that last episode was good.
Yikes.... another one I hated. "Space: Beneath and Behind" had a lot of problems; such as bad guys who didn't fire back. Until the last episode. And some of the prettiest, most coifured Marines since Demi Moore and Tom Cruise! I could appreciate what they WANTED to do, but there were a lot of problems.... Watch the episode where they're training the "tanks." If you're working from the assumption that the tanks were automata then most of the training was superfluous. If you figgered they had thoughts and feelings like real people then most of the training was needlessly cruel. Which I think was the point (they're just like us!) but it got watered down by a heavy hand at the ol' typewriter. Same thing when they expaned the idea to the "chigs." When the tank notices a chig watching a pterodactyl fly by... just like he did with the bird back in training.... then he chokes the alien to death.
>What about Captain Power? For a kids toy based show it was really well written.
Surprisingly so. I got the impression that towards the end of the season Mattel sorta stopped paying attention so the crew could do what they wanted.
>What about those folks stuck in the Time Tunnel or in the Land of the Giants they never got home either.
...wait for the inevitable big budget movie versions....
*sigh*
Don C.
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