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critter2
May 27, '07, 7:24 PM
I've been catching the reruns of this Star Trek series on Sci Fi for the past couple of months. Can anyone tell me how many seasons this ran?
Has anyone made any 8" customs from the show?
4 Seasons, 98 episodes total I believe. A touch shy of the magical 100 usually desired for syndication, but close enough, especially since it is Star Trek.
I actually enjoyed this show more than any other Trek series after TNG, but I am in the vast minority with that opinion.
JDeRouen
May 27, '07, 8:10 PM
I enjoyed it as well.
HardyGirl
May 27, '07, 9:01 PM
Unfortunately, by the time Enterprise came out, Playmates had pulled out of making Star Trek toys, and McFarlane took over. I never liked these. McFarlane figures look like the belong in a horror museum to me. I did like the first season of Enterprise, but once they started fighting the same foes week after week, (Xindi), I lost interest.
Captain
May 27, '07, 11:19 PM
Enterprise on its own is a great show (although I too found the Xindi thing boring and forced). Problem is it was suppossed to fit into stablished Trek history, which it did a very poor job of doing. This angered many Trek fans, and left Enterprise as a sort of unwanted step child.
I personally used to accept it as an alternate Trek history, the results of the TNG crew tampering with history in First Contact.
Otherwise, its a fun show, and I for one, thought the final fourth season was the best season of TV Trek since the original series itself! (green animal women, T'pol in a mini....now thats good tv!!)
draconianguard
May 27, '07, 11:31 PM
In the pilot, it starts off with a Klingon with dark skin, ridges, sharp teeth, long hair and speaking the Klingon language. That right there ruined the continuity of the Trek franchise. I hate the idea of prequels in a sci-fi series. This was supposed to be 100 years before TOS but had better technology and effects. Andorians now have antennas that move. The characters lacked charisma. I tried watching it, but gave up. I watched the episode that explains he Klingon head ridges. Absolutely pathetic. I'm mad I missed the Borg episode. I'm sure it was hilarious.
Mikey
May 28, '07, 12:07 AM
I hate Enterprise...
My worst hated Trek spin-off.......
jwyblejr
May 28, '07, 12:20 AM
It had it's moments. Season Four was a vast improvement over the rest of the series.I was alittle disappointed that Sci-Fi didn't pick up this series and run with it.
Captain Dunsel
May 28, '07, 12:56 AM
I for one, thought the final fourth season was the best season of TV Trek since the original series itself! (green animal women, T'pol in a mini....now thats good tv!!)
You said it, Captain (although I was disappointed in their version of the Gorn) ... all the TOS tie-ins were fun in the last season. It's sad that the producers couln't have figured out the right recipe earlier in the show's life--I look at "Enterprise" as squandered potential.
Good to see you in the new neighborhood James!
>That right there ruined the continuity of the Trek franchise. I hate the idea of prequels in a sci-fi series.
I really hated Enterprise too; for much the same reasons. Within the first ten minutes they'd dismantled a considerable amount of Trek history. A shame, 'cos it's the history that MAKES Trek... the idea that you're watching a small part of history with each series. Plyus, there really wasn't anything in the series that couldn't have been done with a show set in LATER continuity.
I'd heard that the guys in charge HATED the original, and the show was supposed to override established continuity. The reason season four was so different was 'cos of a new guy they brought in who loved the original and wanted to realign the show with it.
>This was supposed to be 100 years before TOS but had better technology and effects.
That happens all the time....
>Andorians now have antennas that move.
I was impressed they still had antennas, and were blue. Making them wiggle wasn't a big deal for me.
>The characters lacked charisma.
Not when they were the cast of "Perry Rhodan."
Not that I think the Enterprise guys ripped off Rhodan (although the Enterprise looked a LOT like the Glador...) but they were falling back to older character templates. like the ones around when Perry Rhodan started. (Back in the 60's.)
Don C.
critter2
May 28, '07, 11:30 AM
Thanks for the info. I'm glad to know it made for more than one year.
I figured there would be people who disliked it for various reasons. I respect that. Personaly, I find it refreshing, mainly because it seems less flashy and complicated as some of the other spin offs.
Thanks again for the info:biggrin:
palitoy
May 28, '07, 1:01 PM
I'm in the same boat as a lot of people, watched the first few episodes and gave up. I was excited for this but it looked more connected to TNG (something I don't care for) than TOS.
By the fourth season, I heard so much good buzz that I started watching again. Some really great stuff there, like discovering the Orion Slave Girls are really the ones in charge.
I kind of wished that UPN had gone with the Captain Sulu project they toyed with, basing it after the movies, I think it would have been more popular. You could have played with continuity and technology as well because that's kind of a gray period.
thunderbolt
May 28, '07, 5:55 PM
I've been watching this series on DVD from BBuster. Some of the episodes are fun stuff. The Borg one was good, setting up what will happen to Picard and Co. in a couple hundred years, and the explaination of the different Klingons.
Dave Mc
May 28, '07, 8:57 PM
I stopped watching this after the first season. Just found it boring and thought it changed too many rules. Also hated the idea of the first Enterprise Captain being Archer. First trek series I didn't watch all the way through.
Mikey
May 28, '07, 9:49 PM
I also hated the fact that they had to have their usual token "babe" for all the adolescent nerds to drool over.
It was the same on Voyager with 7 of 9
I think the Vulcan woman (I forgot her name) was pretty hot, but they didn't need to show us her *** crack every second episode.
I never seen Uhura's *** crack, but that never stopped me from thinking she was pretty hot in her time.
The old series was **** in space.....
We all know that, and even Gene called it that .....
But they always left the reguar cast a lone......
I hated that about Enterprise.
Also,
Bakula was soooo boring as Captain.
The Bat
May 29, '07, 5:19 AM
I liked the Cast...and Thought the Show had great potentional...but with Berman & Bragna Writing & Producing...it NEVER had a chance!:cry: It suffered from the same problem's that the "Next Gen." Serie's suffered from...long lingering Plot Thread's.
What made TOS so great(besides the AWESOME Cast!)...was that each Episode was a self contained Story. And They had GREAT Writer's! The even brought in some very famous Guest Writer's like Robert Block(Cat's Paw), and Issac Asmov(Arena).
Earth 2 Chris
May 29, '07, 8:58 AM
I too watched the first few episdoes, but I barely remember them. Other than confusing me over Trek continuity, they didn't make any impression on me. I meant to watch the 4th season after hearing how it had gotten better, but never got around to it.
What made TOS so great(besides the AWESOME Cast!)...was that each Episode was a self contained Story. And They had GREAT Writer's! The even brought in some very famous Guest Writer's like Robert Block(Cat's Paw), and Issac Asmov(Arena).
I think you've hit on what really hurt the later Trek series. TOS was essentially an anthology series with the same cast every week. Famous and or established Sci-Fi writers wrote the vast majority of episodes. Sure, the on-staff crew cleaned up the scripts and made them jibe with the series (like the infamous City on the Edge of Forever), but the imagination and freshness of having different writers come in to write an episode or two was never really duplicated. I think TNG's first season had a few episodes by "visiting" sci-fi authors, but most of them seemed to be rehashes of TOS. And don't get me started on TNG's writers falling back to the same damn solution over and over again. The deflector shield on the Enterprise D might have well have been a lucky rabbit's foot. Need to patch up a worm hole? Modulate the deflector shield. Data's brain on the blink? Modulate the deflector shield. Wesley Crusher more annoying than usual this episode? ...okay there's no cure for that.
Chris
johnmiic
May 29, '07, 5:23 PM
Every time they do a spin-off or re-start the franchise they try to cut off the old continuity. It's a strange form of self-loathing Star Trek seems to have. Every new team feels they can do better than the old so lets ignore the old guard. Only Harve Bennett and Manny Cotto embraced the old show when making new stories. Berman seemed to feel he had History Eraser Button Carte` Blanche`.
ABMAC
May 29, '07, 5:48 PM
The even brought in some very famous Guest Writer's like Robert Block(Cat's Paw), and Issac Asmov(Arena).
Arena was based on a short story by Fredric Brown. Asimov's only behind-the-scenes connection to Star Trek was as scientific advisor on Star Trek: TMP.
The Bat
May 29, '07, 7:03 PM
Arena was based on a short story by Fredric Brown. Asimov's only behind-the-scenes connection to Star Trek was as scientific advisor on Star Trek: TMP.
Huh? I could have sworn He wrote that! I do remember reading that Short Story in "Starlog Magazine". They Chaged the Blob Creature...into the Gorn.
palitoy
May 29, '07, 7:17 PM
The deflector shield on the Enterprise D might have well have been a lucky rabbit's foot. Need to patch up a worm hole? Modulate the deflector shield. Data's brain on the blink? Modulate the deflector shield.
Oh, that Deus Ex Machina they seemed to create with their modern tech.
"Use the Blism Blasm Ray and it'll deflect the floobis"
Buttons pushed, problem solved. It got on my nerves, especially in that Insurrection movie.
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